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Analog PV?
I noticed an odd occurrence with the Bell EDACS system. ProVoice has been deactivated. Now, instead of a strong signal, I am hearing analog transmissions with the same digital PV talk groups. I have checked and see no changes to the system. I wonder what happened? When Temple went to channel 3, I could no longer hear them on either PV or P25.
I noticed an odd occurrence with the Bell EDACS system. ProVoice has been deactivated. Now, instead of a strong signal, I am hearing analog transmissions with the same digital PV talk groups. I have checked and see no changes to the system. I wonder what happened? When Temple went to channel 3, I could no longer hear them on either PV or P25.
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I am going to come by the Bell County Center and take that tour. I would love to see what is happening there and see all those terminals. I have noticed the rebroadcasting has not included PV. Recently, this stopped working. Hopefully, I can drop by some time next week. Thanks for your information.
The reason many are confused because of references to call center is because most Bell County Agencies do not run their own dispatch. I realize that may be contrary to some reports in this thread, but it simply is the way it is.
Any citizen is welcome to stop by Bel County Call center and under many conditions, even get a tour and explanation.
Killeen Police Department does NOT operate their own dispatch, neither does Harker Heights PD, KISD PD, Bell County Constables (all districts) etc. etc. etc!
It does not matter if your in Killeen, Heights, or even Salado, when you dial 911 it rings in Belton at the Bell County Call center and is dispatched from same location.
Inside the Call Center are many terminals. Each terminal is capable of monitoring and transmitting on many different TG's. Here is a recent example, 2 detectives are talking on Killeen Tac 3 (50293 - P25) or 293 (dec) 02-045 (afs) and they will mention something and Call Center will respond "Center Direct" Meaning they are monitoring even though it is the same person who is Dispatcting Killeen on (50289 - P25) or 289 (dec) 02-041 (afs.) Subject then takes off and a pursuit ensues, all involved switch to Pursuit 1 (50417-P25) or 417 (dec) 03-041 (afs) which is an all county, all agency in the county talkgroup run by,,,wait for it,,,,Bell County Call Center. As updates are passed, "Center Direct" is heard by, you guessed it; same young lady mentioned over and over above. By the way, if you get a chance; please go and meet these folks; they are consumate proffessionals that we rely on everyday with our safety.
Right now, with the exception of 2 Temple PD talkgroups. ALL P25 traffic is being retransmitted on the old EDACS system through a bridge, likewise all old EDACS traffic is being retransmitted to P25 through the same bridge. This will continue for quite some time as many agencies do not have the P25 radios yet. So there is no rush to run out and buy a Phase II capable scanner.
I have now mapped every frequency in the old EDACS database to the new P25 databse (inside information, not using a scannerand with the exception of 5 TG's, the Bell County Conversion plan (which is public by the way, all you have to do is ask for it) is completed by placing a 50 in front of the old (dec) number and badabingbadaboom, you have the complete county P25 plan.
For those who are interrested in the new scanners and how they do on P25 (Bell County); I can now speak for the Uniden BCD 996P2, Uniden BCD 436HP and BCD536HP and finally the Unication G5 Pager. All fall short on Phase II P25 with the exception of the G5 (but it is not a scanner, rather pager that will scan.)
It is frustrating, and I have spent hours messing with P25 Thresholds as well as preamps, 800mhz yagies etc. It seems decoding algorythims are just not there yet in consumer scanners. I can have full strength bars, consistently locked on to control channel, and still miss many transmissions. My series of RTL-SDR's in contrast are almost perfect, just not portable. If anyone is being more successful with the above Uniden boxes, please chime in!
Hope someone finds the above useful and I am more than happy to answer specific questions if I can.
I am going to come by the Bell County Center and take that tour. I would love to see what is happening there and see all those terminals. I have noticed the rebroadcasting has not included PV. Recently, this stopped working. Hopefully, I can drop by some time next week. Thanks for your information.
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I live in Bell County and noticed this transition about a month ago. I’ve also noticed since then that some transmissions are identified as EDACS and some as P25. This is the case for Killeen, Temple is now showing up as P25.
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Yes, I am well-aware of Temple working on P25 since they have been on the new system for many months.
But, now I feel like a big fool after taking the time to read the post from someone on the inside. It sure sounds like all I have to do is go into the Communications Center & ask for the fleet map and talk groups. I knew someone was attempting to help, but I did not know who.
I asked my former Warden, who was over Bell County for a number of years.
Wow, all of this guessing & the answer was there right before me.
When and if I get it the TG plan, I will submit all. I sent some of my recordings of the system to a heavy-hitter in the RR Texas forum. Now, he won't have to listen and isolate either. LOL.
Yes, I am well-aware of Temple working on P25 since they have been on the new system for many months.
But, now I feel like a big fool after taking the time to read the post from someone on the inside. It sure sounds like all I have to do is go into the Communications Center & ask for the fleet map and talk groups. I knew someone was attempting to help, but I did not know who.
I asked my former Warden, who was over Bell County for a number of years.
Wow, all of this guessing & the answer was there right before me.
When and if I get it the TG plan, I will submit all. I sent some of my recordings of the system to a heavy-hitter in the RR Texas forum. Now, he won't have to listen and isolate either. LOL.
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I did not ask, but I would assume that the Bell County Justice Center was closed because of the death of Bush. So, I will return to try and obtain the official fleet map and/or talk group plan.
I suppose I just ask for a tour and go from there. I wish I had a person to contact in this department.
I did not ask, but I would assume that the Bell County Justice Center was closed because of the death of Bush. So, I will return to try and obtain the official fleet map and/or talk group plan.
I suppose I just ask for a tour and go from there. I wish I had a person to contact in this department.
Whew. I thought Temple threw the "E" switch. I heard Temple channel 3 without any problems.
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Post 103
Look at post 103. I believe this person knows the inner workings of Bell County. I will wait until Monday. Then, I will go to Bell County Justice Center and ask for the fleet map and talk groups.
Look at post 103. I believe this person knows the inner workings of Bell County. I will wait until Monday. Then, I will go to Bell County Justice Center and ask for the fleet map and talk groups.
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While I agree with your comment about post 103, having worked for Fort Hood public safety for the past 20 years, the last 7 as an Emergency Services Dispatcher, I feel like I have a better than average working knowledge of the Bell County communications system as well. I received part of my training there on their equipment and by their staff. But from now on I’ll just keep my comments to myself, I don’t want to seem as being less than helpful.
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Yep. Insert foot in mouth, turn 180° and then shove down throat. Mr Waco is the Bell County expert, NOT!!!
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I wish I could be there when he goes to the justice center for his copy of the fleet map and they look at him like he’s got a third eye in the middle of his forehead. Had he not been so condescending I would have offered him a copy of mine.
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Reportedly, my previous remarks were misperceived. I apology to Tramagod for my remarks since offense was taken.
I never ever realized that Tramagod had a background in communications or had a history of working in dispatch. I in no way meant to discredit or "discount" his expertise in the field of communications.
Hopefully, tomorrow I can obtain the information needed to submit information for this system. Cheers. Sometimes, you don't realize when you step on toes.
Reportedly, my previous remarks were misperceived. I apology to Tramagod for my remarks since offense was taken.
I never ever realized that Tramagod had a background in communications or had a history of working in dispatch. I in no way meant to discredit or "discount" his expertise in the field of communications.
Hopefully, tomorrow I can obtain the information needed to submit information for this system. Cheers. Sometimes, you don't realize when you step on toes.
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Tramagod
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Apology accepted. I hope you get what you’re looking for but the Bell County Justice Center doesn’t maintain that information, as a matter of fast I don’t even think they have access to it. You may want to make a few phone calls before making that drive.
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Luckily, I don't have too far to drive since I work near the Belton Dam. I will give it a go. I might have to consult some of the MCOT deputies. Maybe they could direct me to someone in the system.
Thanks for responding.
Luckily, I don't have too far to drive since I work near the Belton Dam. I will give it a go. I might have to consult some of the MCOT deputies. Maybe they could direct me to someone in the system.
Thanks for responding.
Tramagod
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I have finally managed to find a contact within Bell County to assist me in touring the communication center. When I worked at MHMR in Temple, I had a working lunch with my former Warden & a ranking officer from Bell County. Now, I have an invitation to tour thanks to my Warden friend. I will share any information that I am provided. I am very excited about this opportunity.
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I don’t know how extensive of a tour you will get but it is a very impressive facility. I was there several years ago for training and I was very impressed, I’m sure you will be as well.
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Yes, I am very excited to see this. I am going to dress up a bit instead of walking in with my typical Motorhead t-shirt and Ace of Spades Skull skull cap.
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