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K9KLC

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The problem is people have simulcast issues and don't even realize they have them at times. Also, while my 436 worked ok in the town I live in and is for the fellow that bought it, as I traveled around in the county, it did have problems elsewhere in the county listening to the simulcast system. Personally at times you need more than one device to monitor all the things you might want to monitor.
I would rather have an all-in-one scanner.
While this is a wonderful fantasy, it seems to me and many others that might not be actually possible. I know there's an SDS 150 on the horizon that looks at least somewhat better on VHF analog, but you mention "cheap" also so that's definitely going to be out. I want a truck that will tow a work trailer but gets closer to 30 MPG like one of my guy's little car does too but it's not going to happen.
 

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Yeah, I have a friend who has a 325P2, and he doesn’t have any complaints on rail, but I do admit the BCD436 was a favorite of mine, I think I will just save up for one

I get it, but I recommend keeping the 160DN and saving up for a used 325P2. Using two radios means less chance of missing calls. Maybe one day all you feel like listening to is Rail, so grab the 160DN and go railfanning.

Since you sold your 436HP and SDS, it seems that listening to the county trunked system is secondary to your monitoring interests, and can wait until you save up the funds for a used 325P2.

Just my 2 cents, and it's free.
 

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I get it, but I recommend keeping the 160DN and saving up for a used 325P2. Using two radios means less chance of missing calls. Maybe one day all you feel like listening to is Rail, so grab the 160DN and go railfanning.

Since you sold your 436HP and SDS, it seems that listening to the county trunked system is secondary to your monitoring interests, and can wait until you save up the funds for a used 325P2.

Just my 2 cents, and it's free.
I had a 325p2. I sold it to get my 436HP, then also my SDS100.
 

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Yeah, I have a friend who has a 325P2, and he doesn’t have any complaints on rail, but I do admit the BCD436 was a favorite of mine, I think I will just save up for one
Sounds good! I love my 536HP also. Uniden is taking pre-orders on the new SDS150, so watch the classifieds here for 436's and others being sold to raise funds.
 

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It will be quite a while before I can come up with the needed money and I wouldn't feel right asking a person to come down to my availble offers as it's just way too low and I don't believe in "insulting a person with an excessively low offer". The point of this post was to get information on if the 325 or 436 would be the better option as the 100 is just too much for what I'm wanting to do and would be considered "overkill" if such was to apply to scanner abilites based on my needs.

Sounds good! I love my 536HP also. Uniden is taking pre-orders on the new SDS150, so watch the classifieds here for 436's and others being sold to raise funds.
 

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It will be quite a while before I can come up with the needed money and I wouldn't feel right asking a person to come down to my availble offers as it's just way too low and I don't believe in "insulting a person with an excessively low offer". The point of this post was to get information on if the 325 or 436 would be the better option as the 100 is just too much for what I'm wanting to do and would be considered "overkill" if such was to apply to scanner abilites based on my needs.
Looking at your locale: Niagara County Public Safety System Trunking System, Niagara County, New York

You would need the SDS100.
 

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Everyone looks and sees simulcast and immediately goes for the SDS100, Nobody pays attention to the tower placement, I never had a problem with the BCD436HP on the system across the county.
Exactly. Many users have no simulcast issues at all for this reason. Unfortunately, it's tower placement that gives my 536HP issues with the NJICS. Buying an SDS-100/200 is not worth it just to listen to this one system, especially with departments going encrypted.

You stated above the 436HP was a favorite of yours. Save up and buy one. There is no rush. If listening to the county system was a major priority, you would not have sold your trunking radios.

In the interim, enjoy your160DN. Again, I strongly recommend keeping the 160DN. Two scanners can be very useful. Many of us use multiple radios.
 

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Many of us use multiple radios.
LOL according to my wife, too many but she sure listens off and on when I have one of the Unications on.
Everyone looks and sees simulcast and immediately goes for the SDS100, Nobody pays attention to the tower placement, I never had a problem with the BCD436HP on the system across the county.
This is obviously the old saying, "location, location, location". My 536 isn't too bad here and my 436 worked about the same here but as I traveled around the county I found out it wasn't always working. They've added even more towers now and while I sold the 436 some a while back, I know even my 536 struggles a little more than it used to. The thing is, if you have nothing to compare it to, you may not even realize what all you're missing, I know I didn't. Since my life or others doesn't depend on my monitoring (well usually), I guess frankly it would be "good enough" to monitor the system.
You stated above the 436HP was a favorite of yours
The 436 was pretty good, I sold mine to help fund my second Unication G5 at the time or I'd still likely have it. There have been times when traveling around which doesn't happen often but occasionally, I miss the hand held Zip code thing or having more options to monitor than the G5 provides. If it was a favorite I'd keep saving up and looking. Never know I've seen them occasionally fairly reasonable.
 

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Everyone looks and sees simulcast and immediately goes for the SDS100, Nobody pays attention to the tower placement,
I usually just direct an inquiree to their respective simulcast's tower map and have them make the judgment for themselves
 

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Everyone looks and sees simulcast and immediately goes for the SDS100, Nobody pays attention to the tower placement, I never had a problem with the BCD436HP on the system across the county.
This is subjective. Because, The (home)system may, or may not, be simulcast.

My home county is simulcast, while. Neighboring counties(I listen to more than my home county) are a mix. One neighboring county is upgrading from NXDN, to P25. The only way I am able to hear them. Is via the simulcast towers of my home county. Another neighboring county, that has the state capitol, is P25, but. One of the cities within that same county, is simulcast.

I also have the BCD436HP. I activated NXDN on that scanner, for the neighboring county doing the upgrade. But that activation was several years ago, and. I could never get the NXDN to work. Now that they are upgrading to P25. I will be able to hear them better.
 

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Ah, more users of the Comet W100RX! 🙃 I've been praising that antenna for some time!
I have had that antenna a while ago and find it to be very heavy mounting on a BNC on the back of a handheld/base scanner. Too over-priced for a telescoping antenna.
 

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I really don't know, but every radio I ever had, seemed to break. I must have owned a dozen scanners over the years, but I never really knew how I wanted to program. Being Police Explorer and Town member, I need a radio to monitor all of districts in the PPD. I also wanted to listen to neighboring Town Watches and Railroads. However, most earlier scanners, didn't have Banks. Once, the manufactures added Banks or Folders, I still couldn't figure out which frequency to assign to what channel. The majority of those scanners, you could assign channel equally, in my opinion,..

Example
Bank 1 20 channels
01 - 20
01 Tacony Tw
02 NE Band
03 J-Band
04 M- Band
05 T-Band
Bank 2 20
21 - 30
21 AAR 46
22 AAR 54
23 AAR 16
24 AAR 64
25 AAR 75

I guess the Big Guy upstairs don't want me to have a simple to use scanner..
 

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I really don't know, but every radio I ever had, seemed to break. I must have owned a dozen scanners over the years, but I never really knew how I wanted to program. Being Police Explorer and Town member, I need a radio to monitor all of districts in the PPD. I also wanted to listen to neighboring Town Watches and Railroads. However, most earlier scanners, didn't have Banks. Once, the manufactures added Banks or Folders, I still couldn't figure out which frequency to assign to what channel. The majority of those scanners, you could assign channel equally, in my opinion,..

Example
Bank 1 20 channels
01 - 20
01 Tacony Tw
02 NE Band
03 J-Band
04 M- Band
05 T-Band
Bank 2 20
21 - 30
21 AAR 46
22 AAR 54
23 AAR 16
24 AAR 64
25 AAR 75

I guess the Big Guy upstairs don't want me to have a simple to use scanner..
Looking at Bucks County: Bucks County Public Safety Radio Network Trunking System, Bucks County, Pennsylvania LE is 100% E', except. The county prison shows no encryption. FD/EMS is 100% unencrypted
 

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I really don't know, but every radio I ever had, seemed to break. I must have owned a dozen scanners over the years, but I never really knew how I wanted to program. Being Police Explorer and Town member, I need a radio to monitor all of districts in the PPD. I also wanted to listen to neighboring Town Watches and Railroads. However, most earlier scanners, didn't have Banks. Once, the manufactures added Banks or Folders, I still couldn't figure out which frequency to assign to what channel. The majority of those scanners, you could assign channel equally, in my opinion,..

Example
Bank 1 20 channels
01 - 20
01 Tacony Tw
02 NE Band
03 J-Band
04 M- Band
05 T-Band
Bank 2 20
21 - 30
21 AAR 46
22 AAR 54
23 AAR 16
24 AAR 64
25 AAR 75

I guess the Big Guy upstairs don't want me to have a simple to use scanner..
Radio systems these days, especially digital trunked systems, are far more complicated than those of 10 to 20 years ago. The farther back you go, the more obvious the differences become. Some of the more recent scanners, such as Uniden's 160DN & 260DN, do still utilize banks, but these scanners, and other simplified scanners, are not capable of handling trunked systems, and, in many cases, are incapable of dealing with digital transmissions. The 160DN & 260DN have limited digital capability, for DMR & NXDN, but not P25, and not digital trunked systems that are commonly used for public safety agencies.

While the newer digital scanners, such as Uniden's x36HP & SDS series, as well as Whistler's TRX scanners, do not have the old style 'banks', their memory is configured such that you can, in effect, duplicate the banks used in older units, with one large advantage. The Uniden's use Quick Keys, which can be used to categorize systems for a specific area or agency. The TRX scanners use Scanlists, which can also be used to categorize programmed agencies & channels. These have a significant advantage over the old style banks, in that you have the flexibility to make these pretty much any size you want. In an older, "banked", scanner, you might have your city or county in a single bank, so that you can access it easily, or temporarily 'turn it off' when something else caught your interest. But if you made an effort to restrict each bank to a specific area or usage type, then you'd end up with a number of "blank" channels, with nothing programmed in them. That would be especially the case if each "bank" was 50, or 100, channels.

For the Uniden scanners, you can assign a specific Quick Key to a given category, whether it's a department in your hometown city, or county, or a state agency, or anything else. Then use that key for all channels related to that category, whether it's 5, 10, 20, or more. No 'blank', wasted, channels in an otherwise large bank. Use the quick key to toggle those channels on or off easily. If things change, and that category of channels grows larger, you can program additional channels, and assign those to the same key whenever you have the need or desire, without being restricted to an unchangeable "bank" size.

The TRX scanners don't use banks either, nor Quick Keys, but do use Scanlists. Assign a list number to a specific purpose or category, then add however many channels (frequencies, or talkgroups for a trunked system) that fall in that same category. Here again, you are not restricted to a specific number of channels for a given Scanlist. Split them up however it makes the most sense to you. And, like the Uniden scanners with their Quick Keys, you have the ability to later add additional channels categorized with the same Scanlist number. No wasted blank channels here either.

Is there a learning course, compared to the older scanners? Sure, but once you begin to understand the differences, and use them to your advantage, you have much more flexibility
 
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