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For M/A Com/Harris/GE, etc: there are two software packages that program all current and past radios. One package is for conventional programming and the other for trunked programming. The trunked package is in upwards of $2,500. The conventional package is more reasonable though is still several hundred dollars. The benefit is you do not need multiple versions for each radio (unlike Motorola).
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Depending what you want the radio to do, it might cost close to $6000
I used Jeremy at the below address. Great guy..
Cross-Connections
35860 Pauba Rd, Temecula, CA 92592
951-764-4022 cell
jeremy@cross-connections.net
www.cross-connections.net
I used Jeremy at the below address. Great guy..
Cross-Connections
35860 Pauba Rd, Temecula, CA 92592
951-764-4022 cell
jeremy@cross-connections.net
www.cross-connections.net
Project25_MASTR
TX-COMU
The ones I optioned for your average Texas radio system were about $5000 each. That was all band, trunking with Phase 2, AES multikey, LLA, etc.
Mine was about $9000, but I got a pile of extras with it for my use case.
MegaHertz315
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Paid $5,125 for mine. Tier 3.5, Yellow, Continuous Channel Switch, GPS, bluetooth, Wifi, full keypad. VHF/UHF/700&800.
Phase I & II options. PC cable & software. Got 2 batteries with this price and shipping.
Phase I & II options. PC cable & software. Got 2 batteries with this price and shipping.
Jeremy is the man. See you in a few weeks in Huntsville......
Got mine from Jeremy, see Smokie 493 above
Project25_MASTR
TX-COMU
You have to find a dealer in your state. If there is not one, you will have to go direct through BK (who may approve the use of an out of state dealer). The dealer agreement for the BKR9000 and upcoming BKR9500 has a geographic restriction to the state the dealer is based out of. This was done in part to keep several of the big dealers from cutting all of the local competition out. In comparison, the agreement for the BKR5000 and KNG M-series essentially restricts to no less than nationwide or global operations.
This may not apply to OP. If they're buying a single unit, then they are likely a hobbyist.
I would look at 49er communications. They are pretty easy to deal with and do work with single customers. I was able to get a quote from them on a VP8000 with little trouble. I didn't end up buying from them because I found a more economical price, but the service was there.
Project25_MASTR
TX-COMU
You'd have to read the dealer agreement. It doesn't allow for a single unit sales case exception though. The way it's written the exception would have to come from BK.
EFJ is more flexible than BK on some of their dealer agreements.
I am a former employee of one of those manufacturers and do sales part time for a dealer of the other.
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Is the cost of BK and others the reason Harris is getting more sale? Was told I could get a full loaded XL-200 new from his dealer for $1800. Which seems like a pretty good price. I need to dig more into programming these and the good and bad things about them
mmckenna
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"Fully loaded" XL-200's are not going to be $1800 each, new. Base radio with one band active and NASPO contract pricing is around $2,100. Adding all bands is around $1800 each, adding P25 phase 2 trunking is another $1800 each. If this was part of a large project, as in building out a large trunked system, you might get another 10% off NASPO pricing, but nothing that's going to bring you down to $1800 for fully loaded. You'd be looking at closer to $6,000.
If you can get brand new fully loaded XL-200's for $1800 each, please let us know.
A single band XL-185 stripped down is around $1700 new.
Programming software (RPM2) is going to run you around $800
I've been running XL-200's at work for a few years now. Nice radios, but you can do better.
BKR-9000 is probably going to be around $3500 'mostly' loaded.
EFJ VP9000 is going to be similar.
I'm getting ready to buy more, and will be going with the EFJ.
speedway_navigator
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Does the state have a quantity purchase agreement with EFJ and other vendors like we do?
DHS: Approved Radio List
mmckenna
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Does the state have a quantity purchase agreement with EFJ and other vendors like we do?
DHS: Approved Radio List
www.in.gov
For us, we usually do that all under NASPO.
For most of my upcoming orders with EFJ, they will be under a price agreement that was secured as part of the purchase of a new countywide trunked system.
Jest got 6 VP8000s, other than them being a little on the fat size I like them much better than the APX8000 that i have been using for 10 years IMHO.
And we have a mix of P25/Analog/DMR and the VP8000 handles all of that with ease
And we have a mix of P25/Analog/DMR and the VP8000 handles all of that with ease
mmckenna
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Early next year there is an 8000S being released. Thinner head design, single line top display. Designed for people that are not wearing structural fire gloves when they use their radios.
speedway_navigator
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I've heard one reason for wider head design is the LTE and now maybe D2D satellite antennas need space at the top. This will be interesting to see.
mmckenna
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Right.
However, Japan, and the EFJ/K home office, have decided that LTE isn't necessary and these will only have WiFi for now. Doesn't matter the head configuration. Maybe some day they'll catch up.
Meantime, most of us do not need 'glove friendly' radios.
speedway_navigator
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I wonder what the ratio is for PD v FD portable quantities per jurisdiction. FD seems to be the marketing target, don't think I've ever seen a portable advertised as
"stays firmly on your hip during a foot pursuit or when a suspect high on drugs is pulling your firearm from your holster".
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