border patrol

[randallsr97]

does anyone know the freqs for border patrol they were in my area yesterday raiding construction sites.

 

[SCPD]

Border Patrol

off hand, No. Do a Search in Dogpile using Police Frequencies and it'll turn up a few sites with Fed freq's. But, since 9/11 the Fed's are almost impossible to Monitor. They use a newer Radio that operates in Virtually full encryption. In Booth Simplex and Duplex. though a scanner might decode a PL tone. all it Hears is Noise. Even the DEA and some Postal have Moved to these. INS also uses Nextel alot. so its about futile anymore!

PS, the Feds use Datron and Tait Radio's Now!

 

[jhooten]

Funny, the radios we have been installing in the Border Patrol vehicles at our facility(contract install for BP all over the US) all have a /\/\ on them. Some 800s, a few 400s, and the vast majority are 160s.

 

[blantonl]

The Border Patrol in texas loves to hand out in the 162-164 MHz range.

These are the freqs in use here in the San Antonio area:

163.77500 R INS San Antonio Primary FM
163.72500 R 123.0 PL INS Pearsall Primary FM
163.67500 R INS Operations (DES/XL Encrypted) FM

 

[TXEMT]

anybody know the PL tone for the san antonio repeater on 163.775?

 

[jhooten]

The four tones used by repeaters in Texas on that freq are 156.7, 123.0, 100.0, and 151.4. Unfortunatly the list I have is missing the city location, but that narrows it down to 4 possibilities for you.

 

[PJH]

The BP is usually down towards the bottom of the list for new stuff. They are still using some Syntor X9000's that have been out of production for quite some time. Solid radio, but has been around for almost 20 years. Its was basically the first pc programable motorola mobile radio.

The Federal Government has started buying digital radio's from various companies over the past couple of years. Unfortuanlty, if you go digital AND encypted, there is no loss of voice quality as there is on analog radio's. So for their activities, there is no reason why NOT to buy the encyption and run it full time.

BTW: If you are running digital, no scanner will decode the PL tone and you to hear static. PL isn't used at all. Same goes with encyption with motorola products. When going to coded, the first part of the key tells the radio's and/or repeater to drop the PL tone since it interfears with the encyption.

And no, I can't spell encryption tonight for some reason!

 

[TXEMT]

thanks for the info on the tones, Now another freq that has eluded me is the input for the 163.775 R. I know it is 162.9 or 8 something caught it once but was looking away form the screen any help.

 

[jhooten]

162.975 appears to be the most common. 162.875 and 168.350 also are used as inputs.

Several flavors of Spectras are being replaced with 110 watt Astro Spectras(with encryption) in the BP fleet, BTW.

 

[certcom]

Border patrol

Border patrol nationwide is using astro trunking radios with DES-OFB. Most areas are not astro capable yet though. They are up in the 170 range depending on the area. They also use 403-433 for thier DMAT vehicles.