Boston Fire Radio System Upgrades

[12dbsinad]

Boston not stupid enough to go P25 for voice. They've said it before and stick to what works.

 

[gordon115]

So now i have to go hunting for channels 6&7.

The SNE Boston Fire page lists channels 6 & 7. I believe they are in current radios.

Gordon

 

[BlackSheepDue]

Joe did the MBHSR Code plug change ? http://bfdradio.net/BFD Channel Plan.pdf
Noticed [might have heard wrong] that today for the Somerville W/F they went to Zone I and Ch.09 ?

Do they really not have channel 5 in their radios?

 

[garys]

They have several UHF frequencies that are listed as District Repeaters. They are repeated and both digital and analog. When I got my SDS200 a couple of years ago I didn't program them in since I never heard anything on them. Or, the few transmissions I heard were P25, but encrypted.

I'll have to add 6&7 back in and give a listen.

The SNE Boston Fire page lists channels 6 & 7. I believe they are in current radios.

Gordon

 

[BFD-S5]

Joe did the MBHSR Code plug change ? http://bfdradio.net/BFD Channel Plan.pdf
Noticed [might have heard wrong] that today for the Somerville W/F they went to Zone I and Ch.09 ?

The BFD codeplug changed! I will try to get that link updated

 

[Citywide173]

Do they really not have channel 5 in their radios?

From a logistical standpoint, there's no need. It's a station alerting tool-you only know it's active if your station is the one that has received the activation tones. If you're on the air, you are expected to be monitoring, answer fire alarm if they call and have a general situational awareness. I understand it could be a nice option for some of the more "enthusiastic" members to be able to listen, but operationally, especially with earlier radios, the ability to use the memory for a different frequency that could have use beyond monitoring would be much more valuable.

 

[garys]

There was a short period of time after the new CAD system went on line where they stopped transmitting alarms on Channel 5. Everything in station can be done via that CAD system as I recall. As you say, it's nice to be able to monitor that, but it's a convenience not a requirement.

From a logistical standpoint, there's no need. It's a station alerting tool-you only know it's active if your station is the one that has received the activation tones. If you're on the air, you are expected to be monitoring, answer fire alarm if they call and have a general situational awareness. I understand it could be a nice option for some of the more "enthusiastic" members to be able to listen, but operationally, especially with earlier radios, the ability to use the memory for a different frequency that could have use beyond monitoring would be much more valuable.

 

[garys]

Speaking of F 5, sitting at my desk I am listening a steady string of alarms. Mostly medicals, but a building collapse down town as well.

 

[EastCoastSunrise]

I was reading the article that was posted and saw that microwave links would be the back end. I thought that microwaves as the back end and interconnect was on its way out, and was being taken down and replaced with things live fiber. What would be the motivation for BFD to build out a new system with microwaves on the backend? And not use something like fiber which from what I can tell is preferred in new systems I've seen built out.

 

[12dbsinad]

I was reading the article that was posted and saw that microwave links would be the back end. I thought that microwaves as the back end and interconnect was on its way out, and was being taken down and replaced with things live fiber. What would be the motivation for BFD to build out a new system with microwaves on the backend? And not use something like fiber which from what I can tell is preferred in new systems I've seen built out.

Because they can have control over the backhaul and can make it robust. Fiber is very fragile.

 

[BFD-S5]

Do they really not have channel 5 in their radios?

It is in every radio. The chart doesn't include the positions above 16

 

[BFD-S5]

I was reading the article that was posted and saw that microwave links would be the back end. I thought that microwaves as the back end and interconnect was on its way out, and was being taken down and replaced with things live fiber. What would be the motivation for BFD to build out a new system with microwaves on the backend? And not use something like fiber which from what I can tell is preferred in new systems I've seen built out.

We will utilize fiber and microwave and at some locations both

 

[BlackSheepDue]

It is in every radio. The chart doesn't include the positions above 16

Surprised they have channels above 16. So channel 5 is not in fact channel 5 in their radios?

 

[BFD-S5]

Surprised they have channels above 16. So channel 5 is not in fact channel 5 in their radios?

5 is in every radio. channels above position 16 can only be added to a scan list

 

[spencerwww]

There was a short period of time after the new CAD system went on line where they stopped transmitting alarms on Channel 5. Everything in station can be done via that CAD system as I recall. As you say, it's nice to be able to monitor that, but it's a convenience not a requirement.

Did they go back to alert and. I heard she dispatch on that system p25 I saw some dispatch are encrypted I wanna go there but I can't understand how how many they use and are they encrypted can I guess someone expline

 

[nikronzo]

Did they go back to alert and. I heard she dispatch on that system p25 I saw some dispatch are encrypted I wanna go there but I can't understand how how many they use and are they encrypted can I guess someone expline

perhaps you should state again in English what you are asking here?

 

[spencerwww]

perhaps you should state again in English what you are asking here?

Sorry I had spell thing on on the digital side it side dist 1 _10 alert channels are wncrpyred but someone got ut stright he side they use uhf but if crosses over 1-4 is clear but all other alerting chsnnel.on digia site is exrpyted.makes no sense do they use all alerts channels are just ones us what im asking

 

[spencerwww]

Sorry I had spell thing on on the digital side it side dist 1 _10 alert channels are wncrpyred but someone got ut stright he side they use uhf but if crosses over 1-4 is clear but all other alerting chsnnel.on digia site is exrpyted.makes no sense do they use all alerts channels are just ones us what im asking

Go.to.digital side and look some.fire alert is open other are wncrpyted so I was wondering what they use and why heck would they open all open whats there hide dispatch

 

[W1KNE]

HUH??? I am so confused. What is wncrypted? Is that encrypted? None of what you are asking makes any sense. Perhaps just slow down a notch and check that the spelling is correct.

 

[12dbsinad]

HUH??? I am so confused. What is wncrypted? Is that encrypted? None of what you are asking makes any sense. Perhaps just slow down a notch and check that the spelling is correct.

He is using a Enigma machine here on RR!