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[Snibble]

Shelbyville Fire

Shelbyville Fire Department is out on a working fire inside the Knauf factory in Shelbyville. Sounds like the fire is about knocked down and mop-up is beginning. Treating one employee for smoke inhalation.

Traffic on 159.195MHz SFD repeater.

 

[hoser147]

Coping traffic ref to an escapee from Anderson, 17 y/o Black male. Red sweatshirt and blue jeans. NO Shoes or Coat ( he aint going to last long like that) Handcuffed. Last seen getting into a Silver Ford partial plate 3003.

 

[Snibble]

Shelbyville Fire working structure fire in storage building

Shelbyville Fire Department is working a structure fire in a rental storage building near Miller Ave & Hale Rd. Radio traffic on 159.195 repeater.

First in units encountered a frozen hydrant and had to lay line to another hydrant further from the scene to continue operations.

(Update 22:28) - water supply issues appear to be resolved, fire attack restored

(Update 23:40) - sounds like the fire is mostly under control and all that's left is the dirty work

 

[WA9JGB]

Shelbyville Fire Department is out on a working fire inside the Knauf factory in Shelbyville. Sounds like the fire is about knocked down and mop-up is beginning. Treating one employee for smoke inhalation.

Traffic on 159.195MHz SFD repeater.

They are at the storage bldg on Miller Ave. I'm not sure if your talking about the Fire they are on now, or something earlier. They are not at Knauf
There radio traffic sounds like S**T. Worthless bunch of goofs.
I'm glad I don't live over there.

 

[Snibble]

They are at the storage bldg on Miller Ave. I'm not sure if your talking about the Fire they are on now, or something earlier. They are not at Knauf

Right. The Knauf fire was ten days ago, back when I made that post.

There radio traffic sounds like S**T. Worthless bunch of goofs.

Admittedly, the communications were a little chaotic at times, though certainly not the worst I've ever heard from a fire scene. "Worthless" is a pretty strong word for guys who are out in the freezing weather in the middle of the night risking life and limb to save someone else's property.

I'm glad I don't live over there.

So are those of us who do...

 

[WA9JGB]

Shelbyville Fire

Right. The Knauf fire was ten days ago, back when I made that post.



Admittedly, the communications were a little chaotic at times, though certainly not the worst I've ever heard from a fire scene. "Worthless" is a pretty strong word for guys who are out in the freezing weather in the middle of the night risking life and limb to save someone else's property.



So are those of us who do...

I didn't look at the post time. That was my fault.

As far as the worthless part.....Where you listening to the Bat 2 so called Command?
What a joke. That was just about the worst I have ever heard. I know all about the importance
of the risking life for others. I do it myself. Both in law Enforcement and Fire EMS.

I would hope that tonight is a lesson to them, and that they realize that even though Fires seldom
happen over there the radio training still needs to be done.
I heard several four letter words from one of the attack crew members.
I guess that was his was of saying... Hey worthless Command out there get me some water started.

Shelbyville is still that small little town with big politics.
Hell, I remember sitting in a parking lot when I was 18 and drinking Bud Light and waving at the officers
when they drove by. I knid of miss it. LOL

 

[WA9JGB]

So are those of us who do...[/QUOTE]


Oh how Cute that is.
You sweet little thing you.
LMAO

 

[braines]

In Lawrence County structure fire on four family aparment building vacant, but fire truck hung up in the snow. 830 a.m.

 

[braines]

Fire Fire

All Lawrence County Depts Toned Out At 10:30 To Assist Shawswich With Manpower, Pleasant Run, Marshall Twp. Huron Vfd's Enroute To Assist

 

[GTO_04]

25 Vehicle Pileup on I-69

At the 8 mile marker. Two fatalities. 20 Passenger Cars and 5 semis involved. Fishers Fire Dept. engine also involved. Victims not transported to hospitals loaded onto school bus taken to Fishers High School. I-69 still closed.

Ambulances from Noblesville, Fishers, Wayne Twp., Lawrence Twp. and Cicero were dispatched to the scene.

GTO_04

 

[zerobleu]

At the 8 mile marker. Two fatalities. 20 Passenger Cars and 5 semis involved. Fishers Fire Dept. engine also involved. Victims not transported to hospitals loaded onto school bus taken to Fishers High School. I-69 still closed.

Ambulances from Noblesville, Fishers, Wayne Twp., Lawrence Twp. and Cicero were dispatched to the scene.

GTO_04

Red Cross, Ham County EMA, Seals or Rural Metro, Lapel, IFD and Westfield also assisted.

 

[W9NES]

Hope the Engine Company crew from Fishers are ok.

 

[usswood]

I Hope Everyone Is Ok

 

[hoser147]

Just saw a news breif on the accident, Look like a big mess, anyone catch it on a scanner.

 

[W9NES]

WRTV Channel 6 news at 11PM was reporing one person died at the Hospital tonight from the accident on I-69 at the 8MM. Also ISP has determined that low visability was the cause of the accident along with slick roads in the area at the time of the accident.

 

[GTO_04]

According to WISH-TV, there were radio communication issues, but they did not elaborate.

I-69 crash challenged first responders

Lapel FD, Lawrence Township, and Indiana State Police are on different radio systems so that probably had something to do with it.

GTO_04

 

[AK9R]

Aside from the obvious problem of agencies using different radio systems with no interoperability provisions, there are possible problems even if everybody was using the same system.

Here is some wild speculation on my part, but let me make some guesses:

1. With so many agencies involved, some users didn't have the talkgroups already programmed in their radios that were being used at the scene. The SAFE-T radio that I used to have had TGs for all of the surrounding counties plus all of the mutual TGs. This is a planning and training issue.

2. So many talkgroups were in use at once (police, fire, EMS, EMA, INDOT, etc.) that some users were getting bonked because the closest tower didn't have enough channel capacity. This has been a problem on large events in the past and Incident Commanders need to keep in mind that the system has finite capacity.

3. The cold temperatures reduced battery capacity. On a large incident, the Incident Commander needs to assign a Logistics Officer who is tasked with maintaining a supply of charged batteries.

4. The high winds made wind noise in the microphones a problem. Don't know if much can be done about this.

What other possible issues did I miss?

 

[djl998]

1. With so many agencies involved, some users didn't have the talkgroups already programmed in their radios that were being used at the scene. The SAFE-T radio that I used to have had TGs for all of the surrounding counties plus all of the mutual TGs. This is a planning and training issue.

It really seems like most SAFE-T users have insufficient training to use the system to the fullest of its capability. This kind of incident is exactly what SAFE-T was intended for, so that lots of agencies can work together without radios getting in the way. But everybody stays on their own TG's and acts like the interop capabilities such as MA TG's don't even exist. They might as well still all be on separate VHF freq's.

2. So many talkgroups were in use at once (police, fire, EMS, EMA, INDOT, etc.) that some users were getting bonked because the closest tower didn't have enough channel capacity. This has been a problem on large events in the past and Incident Commanders need to keep in mind that the system has finite capacity.

Hell, if they were on different VHF freq's they wouldn't have this problem.

 

[W9NES]

WISH TV Channel 8 News is reporting a Child struck and killed at 8250 Springmill Road on the Indianapolis North side.IMPD is on scene. 8:45AM Fri 2-6-09

 

[W9NES]

WTHR Channel 13 will have the story at 9:27AM during the "Today show"