Brevard County P25 (00A.92077)

[seagravebuff60]

I also noticed that, but in my experience, the licenses can be a bit misleading sometimes, so I try not to rely on them to much. Also, the implementation chart seems a bit misleading on the timeline. I doubt they will "cut over" in December, but anything is possible. I would assume they will do something like Volusia. Correct me if im wrong, but the CCs just went on the air, and they think they can get the entire county cutover in less than 6 months? It seems a bit strange to me.

As far as the frequency and site lineup, I think we will see something similar to the EDACS lineup now with 3 Simulcast cells (North, South, Beach), Or maybe they will eliminate the beach cell and incorporate it into North and South rather than one huge Countywide simulcast. But as I said, anything is possible, and since I've been monitoring Volusia, I've come to expect the unexpected. I think, for now, it is too early to tell a lot of these things, especially since the FCC licenses seem to be overlapping a bit.

 

[srich10]

New talkgroup active on the P25 system operating in TDMA mode. Submitted to DB admin

“Test 12345” callouts heard signaling this could be a Radio Test TG

TG ID: 234
Radio ID from transmissions: 5509001

 

[PBGVOLFF]

I have that saved as the same and also have a list going of the patch TGs that have populated

 

[seagravebuff60]

I have that saved as the same and also have a list going of the patch TGs that have populated

What patch TGs have shown up so far?

 

[W4KJL]

Brevard has lit up their P25 system that will eventually replace their 30 year old analog EDACS system.

Currently only the (edit: south - palm bay) site is active on 852.6125

Funny, they are using the same WACN as Ozaukee County, EDIT: Wisconsin (at least for now) --- this system will be very much in play over the coming weeks.

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I still haven't heard anything from the new system

 

[seagravebuff60]

Please read the above information that has been posted already regarding timelines, etc.

I did. I was replying to your post with my opinions, observations and suspicions. I am aware that there is not active traffic on the system. I looked at your post in depth and came up with my thoughts with the data you provided.

 

[batdude]

I still haven't heard anything from the new system

The new system is still being installed - there is no regular traffic on the new system (yet).

Please read the above information that has been posted already regarding timelines, etc.

 

[W1SPG]

They seem to be testing it by running the BCSO South talkgroup through it right now

 

[batdude]

They seem to be testing it by running the BCSO South talkgroup through it right now

Space Coast Transit seems to be on TG665

Indian Harbor PD seems to be on 1289

 

[batdude]

the RR dB is being updated with some TG info. Please be patient while this update is completed.... ETA 2 hours.

 

[seagravebuff60]

Are these talkgroups showing up with P25 radio IDs, or are they all a patch from EDACS?

Does anyone know if they are using the EDACS migration gateway?

 

[batdude]

Are these talkgroups showing up with P25 radio IDs, or are they all a patch from EDACS?

Does anyone know if they are using the EDACS migration ga

Radio IDs (so far) are all in the 55xxxxx range. No idea if they are using a gateway.

 

[SherwoodPolice]

I did a trunk discovery on it yesterday and only heard IHB on there. And they kept saying for Radio purposes only. Thought that was kinda weird. They have to be using a gateway because I couldn’t follow the conversations in most of the transmissions.

 

[W1SPG]

Just heard the Satellite Beach fire engine say some of their radios have been switched over to P25 and it is not working well when the dispatcher said they could understand them

 

[IMPRES2]

Just heard the Satellite Beach fire engine say some of their radios have been switched over to P25 and it is not working well when the dispatcher said they could understand them

Probably the analog EDACS to TDMA P25 audio intelligibility.
People that are accustomed to the sound of analog always complain when moving to digital, compound that with half-rate TDMA and you are guaranteed to get complaints from users saying everyone sounds drunk / slurring their words.

Even users moving from FDMA (full-rate) to TDMA (half-rate) complain about the audio quality degradation.

 

[batdude]

Probably the analog EDACS to TDMA P25 audio intelligibility.
People that are accustomed to the sound of analog always complain when moving to digital, compound that with half-rate TDMA and you are guaranteed to get complaints from users saying everyone sounds drunk / slurring their words.

Even users moving from FDMA (full-rate) to TDMA (half-rate) complain about the audio quality degradation.

of note, none of the Public Safety TGs on the P25 have been TDMA - .... so far.

 

[seagravebuff60]

I see the Rockledge site in the database, but I don't see any other info in the DB. Where in Rockledge is the site?

Also, im a bit confused, 851.825 comes back to WQSY971 & WNWQ632 are both part of the north EDACS simulcast. 852.1375 come back to WNWQ632, a part of the South EDACS Simulcast. So is the actual site in Rockledge?

 

[batdude]

I see the Rockledge site in the database, but I don't see any other info in the DB. Where in Rockledge is the site?

Also, im a bit confused, 851.825 comes back to WQSY971 & WNWQ632 are both part of the north EDACS simulcast. 852.1375 come back to WNWQ632, a part of the South EDACS Simulcast. So is the actual site in Rockledge?

solely based on signal strength for now - suspect it is at the new EOC facility.

 

[W1SPG]

I am also noticing some radios on the EDACS system have the wobbly audio like P25. Noticed it with a Satellite and an Indialantic officer.
I don't know enough about the radios to know what that means

 

[AE4NG]

solely based on signal strength for now - suspect it is at the new EOC facility.

I did notice the addition of an antenna on the EOC tower the other day. Possibly for the addition of the P25 system channels? Although it’s just a guess on my part.