PJH
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I do know of a NJ department that bought software ADP for $10/unit on new radios. Moto keeps dropping the price. On an existing radio, it been hovering around $75 for the upgrade.
Hardware ADP is costing more due to the hardware. Moto is really pushing ADP as it "locks" customers who want enc into Motorola gear on the 9600 systems since it is a Moto format and keeps the other manufactures off the system (to a point) as they won't be able to offer ADP.
DES can be broken, but broken in a radio enviroment is much harder (not impossible) to do - due to all the factors/variable involved in a radio transmission since it is not static like a computer file. The of course (in the case of Moto gear) is it DES, DES-XL or DES-OFB. Each has a little different algo to it vs straight DES which is the gov't standard (and -OFB for digital P25 mode).
DVP -- 32bit (Motorola format)
DES -- 56bit (US Gov standard)
DVP-XL -- 96bit (Motorola format, enhanced range) theoretically more secure than standard DES
DES-XL -- 96bit (Motorola format, enhanced range) theoretically more secure than standard DES
DVI/DVI-XL - 32/96bit Motorola format (Export verison of DVP)
AES -- 128/192/256bit replacement for DES, digital modes only (256 most common for radios)
ADP -- 40bit based on RC4, digital mode only
Either way, it would be a ***** to try to decode anything.
Hardware ADP is costing more due to the hardware. Moto is really pushing ADP as it "locks" customers who want enc into Motorola gear on the 9600 systems since it is a Moto format and keeps the other manufactures off the system (to a point) as they won't be able to offer ADP.
DES can be broken, but broken in a radio enviroment is much harder (not impossible) to do - due to all the factors/variable involved in a radio transmission since it is not static like a computer file. The of course (in the case of Moto gear) is it DES, DES-XL or DES-OFB. Each has a little different algo to it vs straight DES which is the gov't standard (and -OFB for digital P25 mode).
DVP -- 32bit (Motorola format)
DES -- 56bit (US Gov standard)
DVP-XL -- 96bit (Motorola format, enhanced range) theoretically more secure than standard DES
DES-XL -- 96bit (Motorola format, enhanced range) theoretically more secure than standard DES
DVI/DVI-XL - 32/96bit Motorola format (Export verison of DVP)
AES -- 128/192/256bit replacement for DES, digital modes only (256 most common for radios)
ADP -- 40bit based on RC4, digital mode only
Either way, it would be a ***** to try to decode anything.