Canadian Armed Forces P25 Trunking System
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It's possible. The CLAWR site(knowing where it is) and how strong the control channel was at CFB Cold Lake during the Airshow a couple weeks ago, it's likely a mid to high power site. This may be just because of the size of the CLAWR though. If the system is designed to cover the base and not much more then it could be a low power system depending on coverage requirements.
I'll see if i can get out there sometime this week to listen to it, as well as talk to my radio tech source who works at the base. just seems odd the MPs would be one one system (the provincial) and not on their dedicated system.
I just heard back from my radio tech source at 15 Wing. That frequency isn't used at the base. The only p25 radios they have at the moment are for the Military Police and they are on the PPSTN system. As far as he heard, there are no plans yet for a p25 system at the base. Just the one and the standard VHF, UHF frequencies.
Granted, that's not saying Bombardier, or ATCO/Frontenac haven't put their own system in place. Currently only p25 DND radios at 15 Wing are MP/commissionaires .
I will try to get out to the base next week during my holidays to see if I can find more detail on that control channel
I will try to get out to the base next week during my holidays to see if I can find more detail on that control channel
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10396 was heard today with radio checks at Petawawa
I believe the system ID reported was 5de which makes it highly doubtful a contractor installed out for their own use. This is the same system installed at other military bases for military use and uses one central controller.
If you get out that way, have a listen. Perhaps your source won't be involved until they start moving base units over to it.
Looks like Tuesday I'll get out there to see what I can find. The only Military persons at 15 Wing are MPs, ,some pilot instructors ,Wing Command Staff and the Snowbirds team/support. Pretty much everything else from tower, to ground control, A/C and Building maintenance and even ARFF / Base Rescue is all civilian contractor since the base was leased to NFTC. It could be DND is providing the system for them and since they have their own radio techs, my contact dosen't have access to that info yet. He only looks after the DND radios. For all intents and purposes 15 Wing is military only in name and fact DND owns the land and Snowbird facilities, everything else is leased by Bombardier and ATCO including the PMQs.
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I got tons of Petawawa stuff just no time to sit and ID what they are. I need to find someone on base who can get me a list.
I wonder... Since Canadian Forces Camp Dundurn is detached to 15 Wing, and it is a shooting and artillery range amongst other things, if perhaps Dundurn has a tower as well and is linked ( or will be linked) to 15 Wing?
I noticed in the system, one of the counties listed was NB-UNKNOWN. I have removed this. If the admin who put it there would like it back, please do so. Apologies if you did not want this removed.
The other 2 counties for NB are correct.
The other 2 counties for NB are correct.
kayn1n32008
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That is very possible. 4 Wing has a site on the air field, and also has a site somewhere up around the CLAWR as well.
Here's all the ones I have. If you have some you'd like to share also, please do.
10306 MP Training ?
10310 Military Police
10320 Fire Dept.
10332 TG 10332 Unkn FD
10360 TG 10360 Unkn FD
10307 BuildingSecurity
10308 Gate Security
10390 FleetMaintenance
10377 Public Works
5000 TG 5000
5003 TG 5003
5026 TG 5026
10303 TG 10303
10326 TG 10326
10347 TG 10347
10348 TG 10348
10349 TG 10349 Enc
10373 TG 10373
10374 TG 10374
10380 TG 10380
10382 Range Common ?
10385 TG 10385
10396 TG 10396
10306 MP Training ?
10310 Military Police
10320 Fire Dept.
10332 TG 10332 Unkn FD
10360 TG 10360 Unkn FD
10307 BuildingSecurity
10308 Gate Security
10390 FleetMaintenance
10377 Public Works
5000 TG 5000
5003 TG 5003
5026 TG 5026
10303 TG 10303
10326 TG 10326
10347 TG 10347
10348 TG 10348
10349 TG 10349 Enc
10373 TG 10373
10374 TG 10374
10380 TG 10380
10382 Range Common ?
10385 TG 10385
10396 TG 10396
I got tons of Petawawa stuff just no time to sit and ID what they are. I need to find someone on base who can get me a list.
I got out to 15 Wing today. Spent 1/2 hour sitting in the Canex parking lot. I had both a psr-800 and BCD396xt monitoring the reported frequency of 148.78. there was nothing but dead air on the channel. not even a control signal.
current assumption: when BCScan came through, they may of been testing , but the site is not currently in operation..yet.
I'll keep a ear open for it
current assumption: when BCScan came through, they may of been testing , but the site is not currently in operation..yet.
I'll keep a ear open for it
10326 some type of Fire activity on this talk group for CFB Petawawa lately. Using this talk group while fighting fires on the edge of the range and Algonquin Park.
10320 - 10329 are probably all Base Fire channels.
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If you go back, scan from 138-174. The system may change control channels to spread the load out onto each repeater that makes up a site. Just because you heard nothing on that channel, does not mean the system was not on the air.
That's what it seems like. I'm only in the area periodically so I've only been able to find info here an there whenever I can in hopes that someone else may be able to fill in some gaps.
next time i am out there i will scan the full trunk band. i just focused on that channel as it was reported to be control. I didnt have time to actually set up the computer to decode any found control channels (theres up to 3 p25 systems in the area not counting the base)
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