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Hey I saw that to. The Frequency was 160.125 that was on the radio. It looked like a Yaesu Radio. They also use Ch 16 in the CB's. One night I even heard what sounded like a Family Radio Service low power beep on the radio when 2 truckers were in sight of each other.
 

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Too bad on that heavy haul as well, should of given her another chance.

They'll give her another chance. Maybe next season. She's proven herself capable in everything else she's done. She just had a bad trip. Remember, she got herself in a ditch last season; since there was no damage to the tractor or the load she was back on the road after checking in with the boss.

On a tangent.... Does AK do the same as NY when it comes to height clearances? I think so since that 17.5 foot high load cleared a 16.5 foot overpass leaving Anchorage.
 

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In most areas the posted height is the minimum height (often with a several inch margin) between the overpass and the highway. Since many overpasses are curved by design, there may be quite a bit of difference between the posted height and the area where the most clearance is. What the truckers did in that episode is to drive under the taller portion where there was more clearance. Had they picked a different section to drive under you'd probably have heard some grinding and crunching sounds.
 

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Somewhat off topic, but this made me remember... There was a large over-sized load convoy here in Toronto last winter of some HUGE beer vats (Toronto News: Convoy hauling six massive beer vats starts slow journey to Toronto - thestar.com). Anyway, I had used Close Call to figure out what frequencies they were using. Turns out they used LADD 1 and LADD 2. I asked one of the big-cheese guys after giving an interview, he told me that they routinely use the LADD channels for heavy equipment moves and that they're "fairly active" in this area. Go figure :) So it looks like it wouldn't be a bad idea to keep an ear on them no matter where you are, just in case.
 

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In most areas the posted height is the minimum height (often with a several inch margin) between the overpass and the highway. Since many overpasses are curved by design, there may be quite a bit of difference between the posted height and the area where the most clearance is. What the truckers did in that episode is to drive under the taller portion where there was more clearance. Had they picked a different section to drive under you'd probably have heard some grinding and crunching sounds.

Several inches? Maybe one inch. Eight years experience commercial driving here. What I was asking was if AK posted heights like NY. That is, NY often posts heights 1' shorter than actual to compensate for ice/snow buildup. I don't drive in NY, but many drivers have told me this was the case. Does AK DOT do this? Something tells me this is the case, especially the woman at the Carlile heavy haul desk assured the drivers the height would clear that overpass.
 

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Several inches? Maybe one inch. Eight years experience commercial driving here. What I was asking was if AK posted heights like NY. That is, NY often posts heights 1' shorter than actual to compensate for ice/snow buildup. I don't drive in NY, but many drivers have told me this was the case. Does AK DOT do this? Something tells me this is the case, especially the woman at the Carlile heavy haul desk assured the drivers the height would clear that overpass.

Alaska has the same DOT rules as the rest of the lower 48 when it comes to height, over 14 ft high you need a permit ($$$$ for the state). Most bridges between Anchorage and Fairbanks are at least 17.5 ft. Carlile is too big an outfit to let a load leave the yard without knowing whether it will go under the bridges or not. The heavy haul trucks are ALWAYS lead by at least five pilot cars/pickups and for two trucks to be traveling north I am sure the VP (of Operations) was also following behind (in a Suburban).

The pilot cars try to keep the oncoming traffic aware that a big load is coming, trying to get other trucks to drive into "pullouts" along the highway to stay out of the way. When I drove for Carlile we always knew ahead of time when a FAT load was coming thru. Then you try to plan to be at a good spot to get out of the way.
 

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NY posts their bridges at whatever they want. US 20 near I-88 has a bridge marked 12" 8" and no troubles getting a dry van under it. I have seen all the extremes there making them the extreme.

As far as the possible amateur rigs being used, someone had a Carlisle pickup and suddenly there was a mobile rig and a mag mount on it. So, at least the production company buys them, but I don't think we have enough info to know if Carlisle does.

Five pilot cars for a single truck? Seems a little much even on the Dalton, but I have never been there either. =]
 

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NY posts their bridges at whatever they want. US 20 near I-88 has a bridge marked 12" 8" and no troubles getting a dry van under it. I have seen all the extremes there making them the extreme.

As far as the possible amateur rigs being used, someone had a Carlisle pickup and suddenly there was a mobile rig and a mag mount on it. So, at least the production company buys them, but I don't think we have enough info to know if Carlisle does.

Five pilot cars for a single truck? Seems a little much even on the Dalton, but I have never been there either. =]
Yes, amateur rigs are being used. As I have stated before, I drove for Carlile for three years, never on the Dalton though. And it is "Carlile", not Carlisle... The company is named after the father of the two brothers who founded it.

Five pilot cars are nothing. I have seen as many as ten used just to bring an oversize up the Parks from Anchorage. They get ten to fifteen miles ahead of the convoy to get everyone off the road, into pullouts, so they do not have to stop or slow down. There are many twists and turns on the Dalton. Believe me, you are not seeing the half of what happens there.

Every truck/pickup has at least a CB and/or a multi-channel VHF radio. When I drove the Parks highway, I knew most of the drivers and some of the DOT personnel and Troopers. Troopers also have CB's, I spoke to them ocassionally. One trooper even telling me to refrain from getting off the road while he was approaching with lights and siren... I guess he didn't want to have to investigate why a semi-truck, pulling double 45 foot trailers (my overall length 105 feet) is turned over in a ditch.

Pullouts are a unique thing about Alaskan roads. They are less than a rest area but more than a wide shoulder area. I used the pullout at MP 196. It was large enough for trucks and the snowmachiners to park/camp at during late March/April.
 

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Carlile Trucking is a disgrace! They send their drivers out with defective trailer brakes and are so cheap they can't even provide legal type accepted radio's for their licensed VHF frequencies. All trucks travelling in such a remote and dangerous area should have HF radios licensed on 5167.5, the "Alaska Emergency Channel". There is a reason the FCC assigned this channel, is is downright life threatening in remote Alaska! With 150 W PEP allowed there is no doubt they would be heard by a private fixed station somewhere. Somehow I can't see Carlile investing money in HF radios after what I have seen of their shoddy operation on TV. Shame on them putting peoples lives at risk!
 

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Carlile Trucking is a disgrace! They send their drivers out with defective trailer brakes and are so cheap they can't even provide legal type accepted radio's for their licensed VHF frequencies. All trucks travelling in such a remote and dangerous area should have HF radios licensed on 5167.5, the "Alaska Emergency Channel". There is a reason the FCC assigned this channel, is is downright life threatening in remote Alaska! With 150 W PEP allowed there is no doubt they would be heard by a private fixed station somewhere. Somehow I can't see Carlile investing money in HF radios after what I have seen of their shoddy operation on TV. Shame on them putting peoples lives at risk!
For someone who has never been to Alaska and driven any road in the state, at least you got the spelling of "Carlile" right. You really don't have any clue as to what driving in Alaska in the winter, or summer for that matter, is like. I have never been on the Dalton either with a truck, but I did three years of shuttling double 45 ft trailers up and down the Parks Highway (Fairbanks to Cantwell) driving for Carlile Transportation Systems.
 
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