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CB Antenna Position on Big Rigs Vs Cars/Trucks

HEATHEN0042

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I went on a road trip recently with my CB, still working on getting it dialed in, so antennas and positions are still fresh on my mind.

While I was rolling through the 1200 miles of various highways, I kept looking at the big rigs and their antennas along with where they were mounted.

For my antenna (Cobra HGA1500) it suggests mounting in the center of the roof while the Big Rigs would mostly use mirror mount antennas. Some would have a very short whip on the top of the cab. One thing they had in common was none were running giant 102" whips or anything like that. Is it just the sheer size of their grounding plane that allows their antennas to get by with that placement and size?
 

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I went on a road trip recently with my CB, still working on getting it dialed in, so antennas and positions are still fresh on my mind.

While I was rolling through the 1200 miles of various highways, I kept looking at the big rigs and their antennas along with where they were mounted.

For my antenna (Cobra HGA1500) it suggests mounting in the center of the roof while the Big Rigs would mostly use mirror mount antennas. Some would have a very short whip on the top of the cab. One thing they had in common was none were running giant 102" whips or anything like that. Is it just the sheer size of their grounding plane that allows their antennas to get by with that placement and size?
Many big rigs have fiberglass cabs and nowhere to mount an antenna on metal except for the mirrors. There are height limitations on the highway and where would you mount a 9ft tall whip on a huge truck and stay below about 14ft off the ground? That would place the base at just 5ft off the ground and the roof of many big rigs are about 10ft off the ground.
 

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Many big rigs have fiberglass cabs and nowhere to mount an antenna on metal except for the mirrors. There are height limitations on the highway and where would you mount a 9ft tall whip on a huge truck and stay below about 14ft off the ground? That would place the base at just 5ft off the ground and the roof of many big rigs are about 10ft off the ground.
That makes sense. I guess in my head I assumed they were running an optimal set up. But it would seem to be more of best of a bad situation.
 

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Several types have embedded antennas. Others have inferior locations plus inferior grade of design/materials.

I ran SIRIO 5000 at over 7’ each on last truck (just under 14’ total height). It’s exceedingly rare to find this type set-up.

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That said, I’ve become accustomed to having the best ears around for the past ten years as I’ve chased performance. When parked, other drivers walking past comment that it sounds like I’m listening to VHF, not HF.

Gear + Installation mean I can dial-in everyone else’s radio rig (radio controls) as the details of what’s “off” is so obvious. This is beyond greater TX & RX distances-capability.


1). When it comes to, “best truck radios”, it’ll be men who own their equipment (Owner/Operators) versus fleet drivers.


2). USA Region is second. The Great Plains and Upper Midwest are where one will find the best big truck radios overall.

3). Throughout the country one will find that N-S Interstates versus E-W Interstates will have more and better radios (men more likely running local & regional).

More detail — at length — in this thread
if you want to understand the likelihood of where & when the largest group of CB operators are to be found and if on-air.

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I don’t see many big rig with CB antennas around here. In the past 2 years I've only made contact with 2 drivers as they were going through here and lost them both very quickly. Maybe 2-3 miles out. Not much of a set up Im guessing

A few of the specifics from the thread I linked above are:

1). Time of day: Pre-dawn to roughly 1100; and,

2). Location: Nearest to areas in the region where trucks congregate to load/unload (warehouse district, railhead, river/sea port); and LOS to major highways especially interchanges.

— Men working local can operate almost blind-folded, so it’s regional who are seat-edge concerned with road conditions farther from city center.

In any metro on the periphery are bulk haulers (gravel, rip-rap, cement in a city) who are tied to construction as a group making multiple round-trips passing each other as they do. With Skip the interfering factor the last two years it’s not simply “likely”, but probable that they’re not on 27.185, but are on an adjacent channel such that anything they hear is of interest to them thereby.

Having said that, it’s also probable that only a few out of a dozen will have radios worth mentioning. They’re to be heard from roughly 0500 to 1300 and are those you’re most likely to hear.

— This is dependent on geography. Loggers, grain-haulers, etc.

3). The “big” rigs are men who run significant distances in (usually) their own trucks. May not be gone from home for 10-14/days, but have runs that will net them 2-3,000/miles in around a week or that high-value freight has them moving city-city (manufacturing Midwest). Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania. This job description is on-air till late in the day (1700).

4). The glory days of cross-continent OTR passed long ago (replaced by container trains with China-junk). As most of America consumes, but doesn’t produce this accounts for “freight” which doesn’t pay beans (except by volume). This is mainly high driver turnover “mega carriers”. Probably the group most identified as “truck drivers” as rig-type plus livery spells that out unmistakably. Least likely to have decent radios.

If one is on-air from 1600 till late he’s missed most of what would have occurred and that he needs be LOS to (above locations) and that he can ID who (group) is on-air to predict and that he himself has both strong TX and a conversational aptitude developed.

— Get out a good highway map and fold it open such that one’s home (and/or commuting route) is somewhat centered. Look to see what’s 5-miles around (full daylight) and a second radius of what’s 10-miles (pre-dawn).

Assuming one is in/near a major metro:

Men in truckload service headed in-bound to morning delivery have a radio turned up. Men going from that delivery to get re-loaded are past the first use of the days energy. Men re-loaded and outbound are wearing down.

A). 0500-0900
B). 1000-1400
C). 1400-1800

The big outlier is LTL for late-night (hours past sunset). Less-Than-Truckload shuttling freight for their company over a large area on scheduled service runs. Same route five nights/week, often. Can have excellent radios.

Find a major city and devise routes of 300-miles which loop back.

Major Carrier
Fleet Truck
Employee

This is the last remaining group to fill a lot of shoe pairs re CB heritage. The slip-seater. Often, a Union carrier.

He nightly tracks the growth of potholes.

If you’re a night owl with a good station, you can make friends. Herb oughta be thru in about twenty-minutes.

The thread has depth (maps & links) by which clarity develops.

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From experience:

I wake up approximately 0230 after having shut-down by/before 1600 the day before. Radio gets turned on to ck NOAA. As I set about to brewing coffee & making breakfast plus a few sandwiches, I switch over to AM 27.185 and open her up all the way (1400-1600 daily is toughest RX conditions).

I may hear “nothing”. Fragments. Or it’s a few guys here & there covering the miles (chitchat, over the years I’ve learned about trucking from some of this).

If I’m near a major interchange (Interstates and/or US Highways) is where I’m likeliest to hear talk on conditions where weather isn’t a factor (construction, etc).

Where weather is a consideration — or where a choke point exists — is where I’ll get on-air early to be more than just a bump-on-a-log. Another fellah at the coffee shop counter exchanging hellos and such.

One needs basic info. Road, Mile Marker, etc.

1). There’s not a guarantee it’ll be mentioned.
2). It may be past where who’s on air is concerned with going.
3). It may be a phenomenon so common to the area it doesn’t seem worth mentioning.

Then there are the place/time/phenomenon so intense that the brains required to execute a Daily Trip Plan come into play:

Post in thread 'Do truckers still use CB Radios?'
Do truckers still use CB Radios?

Put yourself in the shoes of someone who’s not been there before with a need to traverse the area.

A left-lane exit from one Interstate to another is a classic thanks, glad you told me tip to pass along you find he’s westbound on XX.

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