CDM not programmable by remote head?

[Anderegg]

Finally got it working thanks to a decade old RR post. With radio powered up, discconect the remote cable and plug in the programming cable to the deck. Read radio was a success using Windows 11 64 bit VM on Parallels v17 USB-C to Prolific serial port adapter.

Paul

 

[Anderegg]

Spoke too soon...this allows READ but NOT WRITE...for the love of God...

Paul

 

[mmckenna]

Does the radio power up and show something on the LCD display?

 

[Anderegg]

With the programming cable plugged into the deck the control head is not connected. I get a "write to radio failed" error. When I turn off power to the radio I get a cannot read codeplug to verify error when atempting to write back into the deck. I tried power cycling my power supply and reconnecting and disconnecting the control head to account for the previous read resetting nto a possible cold state as is the case if you connect the control head while power is hot, dead head until you cycle the 12v into the deck.

Paul

 

[mmckenna]

Maybe I'm tired, it's been a long day, so bear with me….

The control head needs to be connected to the RF deck. You should be able to turn the radio on and see something on the LCD screen. That'll tell you if the head is installed correctly. Often the error I see is the ribbon cable gets plugged in backwards.

If you set up the radio, head connected, power on, something showing on the display, then try reading the radio.

 

[cpg178]

Back when I ran all CDMS, I could usually get it to take the codeplug after a few attempts. Worst case, just re attach the control head directly to the radio like others have suggested above. If you are using the genuine 10pin remote head cable you should be able to program it no problem with the remote head connected to radio body, if you are using an ethernet cable it wont work.

 

[Anderegg]

Maybe I'm tired, it's been a long day, so bear with me….

The control head needs to be connected to the RF deck. You should be able to turn the radio on and see something on the LCD screen. That'll tell you if the head is installed correctly. Often the error I see is the ribbon cable gets plugged in backwards.

If you set up the radio, head connected, power on, something showing on the display, then try reading the radio.

The radio as dashmout works as expected, but the issue is with remote mount programming. There are a handful of people out there claiming they program the remote mount through the mic jack successfully. I want their secret sauce

I have a brand new 5m and 7m OEM remote cable I am testing with. I have an OEM RIB box if that form of communications is necessary, I would just need a RIB box compatible cable.

Paul

 

[cpg178]

The radio as dashmout works as expected, but the issue is with remote mount programming. There are a handful of people out there claiming they program the remote mount through the mic jack successfully. I want their secret sauce

I have a brand new 5m and 7m OEM remote cable I am testing with.

Paul

Very rarely was I able to get it to take it with the remote head connected, I always did it by hooking it directly up to the radio on the remote head jack, then plugging my remote head in after to see if it worked or not. Often times took a few tries

 

[mmckenna]

The radio as dashmout works as expected, but the issue is with remote mount programming. There are a handful of people out there claiming they program the remote mount through the mic jack successfully. I want their secret sauce

I have a brand new 5m and 7m OEM remote cable I am testing with.

Paul

I had an issue once, but only once. I use a Motorola RIB and a home made cable. I think some of the ribless/after market cables are hit and miss.

Have you tried making a RJ-50 to 20 pin connector for the rear? Motorola sells one for $12.75 or so. https://www.shopwiscomm.com/RLN4853B-RLN4853-Motorola-ADAPTOR-10-TO-20-PIN-EPP-P1749361.aspx

 

[cpg178]

Make sure you SAVE the codeplug thats in the radio prior to writing your new one. if you get an EEPROM CS error and for some reason the CPS cant recover it your gonna have a long day fixing it. That happened to me and this is why I use XPRs now.

 

[Anderegg]

Dug out my Motorola OEM RIB box and Maxtrac RIB cable...plugged into the remote head, read and write now works successfully. I never thought I would touch my old Maxtrac DOS RIB stuff again! As an added fun oddity, the radio can still be read and wrote through the control head even if I turn the power off on the control head.

RIB box + Maxtrac cable + Windows 11 64 bit + Parallels for Mac + USB-C to serial adapter = SUCCESS.

Paul

 

[cpg178]

Interesting that CDM CPS works no issues on Win 11. Glad you got it working

 

[Anderegg]

Interesting that CDM CPS works no issues on Win 11. Glad you got it working

Windows 11...through a VM on a /Mac...with a USB-C serial adapter...

Paul

 

[cpg178]

I use a mac as well for running Windows 10 to program my 2 XPR mobiles in the car and portables when on the go. I use VMWare

 

[mmckenna]

Windows 11...through a VM on a /Mac...with a USB-C serial adapter...

I do believe you are dabbling in some sort of witchcraft there. Tread carefully lest ye open a portal to the underworld.

Translation: Holy (#*@!, I never would have thought that would work!

 

[Anderegg]

I have Windows 7 32 bit and Windows 10 64 bit VM's that I am transitioning to a single Windows 11 64 bit VM. I made sure to test all my CPS for proper read and write functionality first. For touching XTS3000, Astro Spectra, Astro Saber, MTS/MCS or some old Maxtracs I have laying around, I can fall back to my old Dell D630 With multiboot Windows 98SE, Windows 7 32 bit, and DOS 7.1. The only thing my VM's cannot do is read or write to an XTL1500. The control head resets on read attempt and causes the CPS to error out for some reason.

Paul

 

[mmckenna]

I'm running Windows XP on my mac using Virtual Box. Unfortunately I still have some old stuff at work that really likes Internet Explorer. I've got Kenwood software on it, but never tried programming. Didn't want to push my luck. I've got Windoze laptops for that.

 

[Anderegg]

Just wanted to update this thread. The "always works" solution I use for my remote CDM is RIB BOX WITH SERIAL PORT. Without the Rib Box, just have not found it to be possible. Specifically, using Windows 10 64 bit BootCamp on a newer intel Macbook, with a USB-C serial adapter (both Prolific and FTDI work fine), and an old Maxtrac Rib Box cable. Was not sure the Rib Box would work through an adapter or on 64 bit, but the radio doesn't seem to care.

Paul