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hello does anyone know i modified my pro 2006 scanner to get cell phones , is it still possible to hear them on a scanner ?
 

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Hi there usnasa. Yes. I know you modified your scanner as I was peeking in your window when you did it.

No, no outside source can detect that you have a modified receiver.

There may still be some analog cellular around that you can intercept but the vast majority is digital now, and what little remaining analog will soon be gone.
 

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thanks so the answer is than its useless to monitor these freq unless u have a digital scanner ? is that right
 
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usnasa said:
thanks so the answer is than its useless to monitor these freq unless u have a digital scanner ? is that right

1) In the US it is illegal to monitor

2) There is little to monitor as most cellular calls are digital now.

3) Non of the digital formats are compatible with a digital scanner (even if you could receive the frequency)

4) this has all been posted many times

5) people will still post lots of other useless and/or incorrect information until this thread is locked
 

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N_Jay said:
1) In the US it is illegal to monitor

2) There is little to monitor as most cellular calls are digital now.

3) Non of the digital formats are compatible with a digital scanner (even if you could receive the frequency)

4) this has all been posted many times

5) people will still post lots of other useless and/or incorrect information until this thread is locked

Bada bing!!! Especially point number 4 above.......
 

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most cellphone calls are no longer using the 800 MHz band. You will find a few calls, but miss the thousands that in the higher frequencies.
 
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n4voxgill said:
most cellphone calls are no longer using the 800 MHz band. You will find a few calls, but miss the thousands that in the higher frequencies.

That is NOT true.

The systems use the 800 MHz cellular band AND the 1900 PCS band (depending on carrier and location).

(See I knew some useless and/or incorrect information would be posted);)
 

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N Jay, shove it up your bum weasle.

All you know how to do is piss on people's parades and put folks down. I know it must irritate the hell out of you, A COMMUNICATIONS PROFESSIONAL, to have to come here to this site and babysit all the beginners and hold everyone's hand. Get over yourself and get a life. Go to Kmart and buy a sense of humor. While there pick up a copy of How To Win Friends And Influence People and then read the thing and implement it.
 
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N Jay, shove it up your bum weasle.

Well, I am glad you are so helpful to everyone here.

(Did you notice the ;), hmm, maybe it was just a bit of humor)
 
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N_Jay said:
That is NOT true.

The systems use the 800 MHz cellular band AND the 1900 PCS band (depending on carrier and location).(See I knew some useless and/or incorrect information would be posted);)

I live in the suburb of one of the largest cities in the United States. With 1.4 million people living in the city and a lot of tourists. My SWAG is that at any given time during the afternoon and into the early evening there are in excess of 10,000 conversations in progress.

I have a 2004 and 2006 each with both Group A and Group B frequencies set in a search bank. I use one of them to search Group A and the other to search Group B, using an outside antenna. If I pick up more than 10 calls in a group it is unusual. As soon as the scanner stops I hit search and keep looking.

Even taking into consideration directional antennas, this is still very few calls being detected at any given time. I know that I am not near as smart as you, but actual testing is what I based my comments upon.

When I first got the 2004 you could hear many transmissions, and I was living in a much smaller city then. Time have changed, so did the frequencies.
 
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I don't think a scanner is going to stop on the 200KHz wide GSM signal, and I am VERY sure it will not stop on the 1.25 MHz wide CDMA signal.
Also if the system perceives the signal is "DATA" it will trigger the data mute circuit in most scanners, right?
(I don't have a newer scanner so I have not seen how they work these days)
 

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These amazing little boogers have sound squelch or data skip buttons, and no they are not engaged.

Wonder why Sprint/Nextel set the value of the 1.8 GHz spectrum at a couple of billion dollars as payment for the Nextel footing the rebanding bill. Verizon wanted the 3 gig freq and said they were worth a whole lot more than that. Duh, you don't think that is where they are concentrating their cell systems.
 
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n4voxgill said:
These amazing little boogers have sound squelch or data skip buttons, and no they are not engaged.

Wonder why Sprint/Nextel set the value of the 1.8 GHz spectrum at a couple of billion dollars as payment for the Nextel footing the rebanding bill. Verizon wanted the 3 gig freq and said they were worth a whole lot more than that. Duh, you don't think that is where they are concentrating their cell systems.

Sprint wanted 1.8 because THEY are a pure PCS play, not a cellular carrier.

The industry wants the 2.x -3 GHz band because it alligns with the "3G" band in Europe and Japan, allowing less expensive product development.
There is also MORE spectrum available, and it is open so it is easier to build out without having to transition existing systems.

BUT, that all being said, no one is abandoning the 800 MHz band (as for some reason keeps being said here).
 

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Good one Grog, that's funny. You get one bonus laugh point.

And I do think of kittens regularly. With lots of bar b que sauce.

Cats....the other white meat.
 
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