CFD Apparatus status discussion (Non-Radio Information)

[MrVelvet]

Jay, is there any talk about adding a 3rd Hazmat unit? It seems like 4 and 16 are being utilized quite regularly nowadays for any type of gas hazmat call, CO or fluids call. There seems to be a lot of times when both of them are out or when one of the 2 needs to drive all the way across town to take a call.

Would adding something in the NW or SW be beneficial? (17 or 20 come to mind) Not as much traditional industrial zones out there, but with the U of C and MRC in the areas along with all the residential, I could see the benefit for additional units.

Any thought of moving to a rapid response type of Hazmat truck? Like what HazTech uses?

Just thinking out loud.

 

[ENGINE_4]

I would think Mr.Velvet that a Hazmat Engine would be added to the fleet (basiclly a Engine company with some hazmat stuff in it), but i don't have aclue what CFD will do.

I have a question about that emergency landing that happend this morning at YYC, Did all of 13 station respond, or just a couple of rigs like: red3, red5 etc...?, thanks

 

[MrVelvet]

I must have missed the emergency landing - damn meetings.

Do you know if it was an AC 1 2 or 3? If it was an AC1, then 13 station would have responded. But once it becomes an AC2, then street side units are dispatched as well. (Jay could provide exact details I'm sure)

 

[Jay911]

All calls at the airport will initially start as an AC1. Calls will be upgraded to AC2 on discretion of the Airport Chief or Airport Captain. Any aircraft that actually crashes will be an AC3.

AC1 - response includes all Red apparatus plus 27 Pump (or closest other available pump), a city District Chief, a city Battalion Chief, and a tanker.
AC2 - above plus an extra 1 pump, 1 rescue, 1 aerial, 1 hazmat.
AC3 - above plus an extra 2 pumps and 1 tanker.

 

[ENGINE_4]

is there any talk about adding a 3rd Hazmat unit? It seems like 4 and 16 are being utilized quite regularly nowadays for any type of gas hazmat call, CO or fluids call. There seems to be a lot of times when both of them are out or when one of the 2 needs to drive all the way across town to take a call.

Would adding something in the NW or SW be beneficial? (17 or 20 come to mind) Not as much traditional industrial zones out there, but with the U of C and MRC in the areas along with all the residential, I could see the benefit for additional units.

Any thought of moving to a rapid response type of Hazmat truck? Like what HazTech uses?

Just thinking out loud.

My bad Mr.Velvet, there was a new truck put into service a few weeks to a month or two back, I have no clue where it is stationed.... maybe Jay could help you with that. This truck is basiclly just a remake of #9 heavy support.


I have just found this:

 

[MrVelvet]

That's a HazTech unit.

 

[Jay911]

The 'new hazmat unit' that was just put online is a new 25 Recovery Truck. It is a custom built unit to replace the 1-ton 1996 utility truck they were using (and the 3/4-ton 1998 haztech truck that temporarily replaced it).

 

[ENGINE_4]

That's a HazTech unit.

yup, there is some pritty good pictures of the calgary fire fleet at http://www.busdrawings.com/emergencypics/calgary/more/more.htm

 

[MrVelvet]

The 'new hazmat unit' that was just put online is a new 25 Recovery Truck. It is a custom built unit to replace the 1-ton 1996 utility truck they were using (and the 3/4-ton 1998 haztech truck that temporarily replaced it).

It's a large truck like 9 Support is?

 

[Jay911]

It's a large truck like 9 Support is?

Yes, I don't have a picture but it is a conventional-cab box type van, E1508. I don't remember what type of chassis it is (it zipped past me on Hwy 22 one day last week coming back from a semi rollover), but it's like a cube van on a International or Freightliner chassis. I would expect it has a hydraulic lift gate at the rear and a pump and reclaiming tank to suck up spilled product.

 

[MrVelvet]

Oh ok, that makes more sense than being a copy of 9 Support.

It must be able to have a lot more tools on it and capacity than just a conventional 1 ton truck chassis.

Thanks Jay.

 

[MrVelvet]

The unit name changes will take place in December. All PUMPs, SQUADs, and ENGINEs will become ENGINEs. All TANKs will become TENDERs. All BRONTOs and AERIALs will become AERIALs. All EMERGs will become RESCUEs.

Jay, just curious if this is still happening this month or will it be a gradual change that everyone just kind of phases in once they get used to the new names?

 

[Jay911]

It will be happening later this month. None of the units are changed yet, despite the few officers who seem to be using the new names now.

 

[MrVelvet]

Question on the last call you just dispatched Jay.

Is Foothills sending 6 Station, (Priddis), to the catalog alarm as well? Seems to be an awfully long drive for Calgary's 6 Pump to make.

--edit: Now that I hear the legal land description, it's not as far west as originally dispatched. I think you said 22X and 1xx some thing Street when it is actually on 69th St W.

 

[Jay911]

Actually it is JUST on the border of CFD's "Foothills" response area. 136 St is the Foothills MD street number - they are several dozen "above" Calgary streets. 136 St MD31 = 85 St Calgary.

All the alarm company had was the legal land description - SE 22 22 2 W5 or something like that.

FREMS did not send any units; they insisted it was CFD's responsibility.

BTW, I have some info on the quints and where they'll be going, as well as some other relocation of apparatus. More in the reply below this one.

 

[MrVelvet]

OK, that makes sense - thanks.

 

[Jay911]

CFD will be renaming/renumbering all their apparatus on or about January 12 and bringing on some new trucks/relocating some old ones at the same time.

The three quints consist of two 105' Smeal quints and one 75' quint by Pierce. Stations 30 and 21 will be getting the 105's and Station 11 will get the 75'. These replace the pumpers/engines in those halls. The 105's will have one captain, one lieutenant, and four firefighters, and operate as a full quint (aerial and engine duties). The 75' will have one captain, one lieutenant, and three firefighters, and operate as a full quint (aerial and engine duties).

19's boat and dive team is to be moved to 30.
FPB9 will be renamed Investigator 1.
All pumps/squads/engines will now be ENGINE xx (i.e. ENGINE 10, ENGINE 10A, ENGINE 14).
All emergencies will be RESCUE xx (i.e. RESCUE 14).
All tankers will now be TENDER xx (i.e. TENDER 25).

Unit type will be described before the station number, the reverse of 99% of the unit IDs as they are now.

More will be provided as it becomes available.

 

[MrVelvet]

Wow, those are big changes and a lot of movement no doubt.

Sorry for all of the following questions in advance.

Any reason the dive team is being moved from 19? Will 19 be getting an aerial back? 21's current aerial perhaps? Obviously a large crew move will have to happen as well from 19 station to 30 for the divers. Will there be another truck that the dive team uses, (bush buggy for example)?

Will those engines that are being replaced be moved to other halls with older engines?

Will the quints be SSV capable? I am thinking specifically of 30 stations new engine, (the quints will be called Engines correct?).

 

[MrVelvet]

Oh, and you can now call FPB9 "Gator 1".

 

[Jay911]

The quints will be engines. The SSV concept, I think, is going by the wayside; the last rumor I heard in that regard was that all the trucks of all types now have arrow sticks on them.

The other engines being replaced by quints will be redeployed and/or put up for sale.

I don't hear that 19 will get an aerial back, but it probably should. I would doubt that 21 would have a quint AND an aerial. Both 21 and 30 are supposed to have 6-man crews for the engine (1 capt, 1 lt, 4 ff's) and on a dive call, one ff and the lt will move to the dive vehicle/boat. I would suspect that the engines that are newest will be put on the road and older trucks will be retired.

As I say, more details will come later on.