DSDPlus Channel activity question

[AngWay]

I just verified: on the busy system while audio was being decoded from the bold channel, 3 more channel grants popped on the display. I did not expect the audio source to change, but I saw the additional activity. On the local system (also a P25 type 1) I never see more than the bold channel with audio being decoded, even when because of the 2 scanners I know another channel has come active, but no other channel Shows in the channel activity window.

I use to have a third window that would pop up but it doesn't do it anymore, i had the DSD+ 1R Event Log the DSD+ Channel Activity and then their was another window that kinda looked like the DSD+ 1R Event Log but it showed information on the calls it had the blue text in it as well.
I can't figure out why it doesn't open anymore i've tried opening each file by it'self but i dont' even see it anymore.

BTW can the Channel Activity window be maximized at all mine is really small.

 

[CanesFan95]

There's no way to maximize the Channel Activity Window, but you can increase the font size via Window > Channel Activity > Font Size.



To re-open the window(s) with blue text, go to the Window Menu, choose which window you wanna open, and then choose the name of the window again, like so:

 

[AngWay]

There's no way to maximize the Channel Activity Window, but you can increase the font size via Window > Channel Activity > Font Size.

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To re-open the window(s) with blue text, go to the Window Menu, choose which window you wanna open, and then choose the name of the window again, like so:

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U are awesome! thank u ... i got a question about the files i should run i have noticed i can run the usual FMP24.bat file and i usually run 1R.bat with it to start everything i have noticed i can click on 1Ra.bat or CC.bat or DSDPlus.exe and the same windows open if i use either one of those. does it matter which one i use since they all open the same windows?

 

[RMason]

U are awesome! thank u ... i got a question about the files i should run i have noticed i can run the usual FMP24.bat file and i usually run 1R.bat with it to start everything i have noticed i can click on 1Ra.bat or CC.bat or DSDPlus.exe and the same windows open if i use either one of those. does it matter which one i use since they all open the same windows?

In short, you should launch FMP and DSD+ using the appropriate batch file.

The batch files (*.bat) contain flags to set options when launching the various programs. Each batch file sets the options appropriate for a particular scenario.

From Notes.txt:

• To use a single device, run the 1R.bat file to start DSD+, then run the appropriate FMP batch file for your device (FMPx-CC.bat)
• If you have a second SDR device, you can run the 1Ra.bat file and the appropriate FMPx-VC.bat file and simultaneously monitor a second trunking system or site or conventional channel(s).
• To monitor a single trunking site with two SDR devices, run the CC.bat file and the VC.bat file to start two copies of DSD+, then run the appropriate FMPx-CC.bat and FMPx-VC.bat files to start two copies of FMPx.

 

[AngWay]

In short, you should launch FMP and DSD+ using the appropriate batch file.

The batch files (*.bat) contain flags to set options when launching the various programs. Each batch file sets the options appropriate for a particular scenario.

From Notes.txt:

• To use a single device, run the 1R.bat file to start DSD+, then run the appropriate FMP batch file for your device (FMPx-CC.bat)
• If you have a second SDR device, you can run the 1Ra.bat file and the appropriate FMPx-VC.bat file and simultaneously monitor a second trunking system or site or conventional channel(s).
• To monitor a single trunking site with two SDR devices, run the CC.bat file and the VC.bat file to start two copies of DSD+, then run the appropriate FMPx-CC.bat and FMPx-VC.bat files to start two copies of FMPx.

Ok i did not know that if i'm understanding that correctly so with two dongles i can run 1R.bat and 1Ra.bat both with FMP24.CC.bat and run two instances of dsdplus. i thought i had to put dsdplus in two different locations and run it that way. hmm

 

[CanesFan95]

No, DSDPlus.exe only has to saved in one place. Look at USING A 2-DONGLE SETUP starting on the bottom of p. 53.

 

[AngWay]

No, DSDPlus.exe only has to saved in one place. Look at USING A 2-DONGLE SETUP starting on the bottom of p. 53.

I have used 2 dongles with P25 trunk tracking but for just scanning by pressing "S" i don't see how two dongles is necessary for that. Also my RSPdx works with dsdplus but the scan feature doesn't have a squelch mode so it's basically impossible to scan with the RSPdx and i wish that wasn't so.

 

[DaveNF2G]

The best way to use DSDPlus is with FMPx (FMPP with an RSP unit). Any other workaround will give inferior results. Trunktracking should not require squelch.

Here's why 2 dongles are recommended. One sits full-time on the control channel and the other one is directed to follow the channel grants. The CC display will show all activity on the system while the VC is tuned to a particular transmission. It also allows the talkgroup priority feature to work.

 

[mtindor]

You guys have given me some valuable information. I have not seen any of that in any of the files. Did I miss some documentation about those settings and how to change them?

All of the information is in the included TXT files (like DSDPlus.txt and Notes.txt).

 

[AngWay]

All of the information is in the included TXT files (like DSDPlus.txt and Notes.txt).

do you know the best way to look up freqs? like i will put dsdplus on a freqs and i have the state.csv file added but it will tell me what that freqs is but when i look it up on RR it's either not there or something totally different . i wish their was a way i could put a tg or freqs in and get the legit answer everything is just conflicting and sdrtrunk will be locked onto a freqs and i can tell it's school buses so i know that and it's DMR but according to RR i don't have any DMR in my area i tried searching the surrounding states as well. it's a headache

 

[RMason]

do you know the best way to look up freqs? like i will put dsdplus on a freqs and i have the state.csv file added but it will tell me what that freqs is but when i look it up on RR it's either not there or something totally different . i wish their was a way i could put a tg or freqs in and get the legit answer everything is just conflicting and sdrtrunk will be locked onto a freqs and i can tell it's school buses so i know that and it's DMR but according to RR i don't have any DMR in my area i tried searching the surrounding states as well. it's a headache

Here are a couple of points to consider:

• Each time FMP/FMP24/FMPA tunes to a new frequency, the frequency records are scanned for matches that lie within the search distance you specified in the appropriate FMPx.cfg. If frequency records are being reported which are outside your range, you may need to reduce the search distance in the appropriate FMPx.cfg
• The state.csv is derived from the data in the RR database. You should be able to find every entry contained in the state.csv in the database
• Frequencies are often reused in multiple areas of the state.
• The search functions of the database should help you to search the database by frequency, descriptions, etc. Start here for doing a frequency search: RRDB | United States | Query You can use the Search Database function from the database menu You can also Query Frequency Data or Query Trunked System Data.
• The RR database is likely not complete for your area. The RRDB is based entirely on voluntarily submitted information. The information in the database should have been verified by listeners before being submitted.

 

[AngWay]

Here are a couple of points to consider:

• Each time FMP/FMP24/FMPA tunes to a new frequency, the frequency records are scanned for matches that lie within the search distance you specified in the appropriate FMPx.cfg. If frequency records are being reported which are outside your range, you may need to reduce the search distance in the appropriate FMPx.cfg
• The state.csv is derived from the data in the RR database. You should be able to find every entry contained in the state.csv in the database
• Frequencies are often reused in multiple areas of the state.
• The search functions of the database should help you to search the database by frequency, descriptions, etc. Start here for doing a frequency search: RRDB | United States | Query
• The RR database is likely not complete for your area. The RRDB is based entirely on voluntarily submitted information. The information in the database should have been verified by listeners before being submitted.

ok well i have a frequency it's 453.6625 and when hovering over the spectrum it says it's "willis ridge/floyd professional licensing consultant" it's a police channel because thats what i'm hearing on it i tried looking that up in RR but nothing comes back saying it's a police channel i'm positive it's in KY tho ...also they're is 151.6750 and it says' it's "VA-KY COMMUNICATIONS 3181 RADIO ROAD/NORTON/WISE" and it is a NXDN48 channel with police on it as well but on RR they're isn't a NXDN for police only fire.
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[RMason]

ok well i have a frequency it's 453.6625 and when hovering over the spectrum it says it's "willis ridge/floyd professional licensing consultant" it's a police channel because thats what i'm hearing on it i tried looking that up in RR but nothing comes back saying it's a police channel i'm positive it's in KY tho ...also they're is 151.6750 and it says' it's "VA-KY COMMUNICATIONS 3181 RADIO ROAD/NORTON/WISE" and it is a NXDN48 channel with police on it as well but on RR they're isn't a NXDN for police only fire.

I misspoke when I said that the state.csv is derived from the RR database. These files are derived from FCC license data. You should be able to find the license info by doing a query of the FCC database. If the frequency is included in the database, you might be able to find it by a frequency search.

 

[RMason]

This is the line from the USA.csv that is being reported:
453.6625, 0, "PROFESSIONAL LICENSING CONSULTANTS, INC", "WILLIS RIDGE/FLOYD", 36.9286, -80.4277, "11K0F3E", "" ; VA

Here is location information from the GPS coordinates. It is located near Floyd Virginia:

 

[RMason]

And here is the license information reported by doing a FCC Data Query on 453.6625

FCC Callsign WQBZ256 (FLOYD, COUNTY OF)

FCC Callsign WQBZ256 (FLOYD, COUNTY OF)

www.radioreference.com

And here is the information from the RR database found by a frequency query on 453.6625

 

[AngWay]

I misspoke when I said that the state.csv is derived from the RR database. These files are derived from FCC license data. You should be able to find the license info by doing a query of the FCC database. If the frequency is included in the database, you might be able to find it by a frequency search.

Ok thanks for all your help. i just don't understand this stuff it's just very difficult for me to get my head around some of it so i ask questions probably stupid questions at times but i'm just tryin to learn in the end.. Thanks again.

 

[RMason]

ok well i have a frequency it's 453.6625 and when hovering over the spectrum it says it's "willis ridge/floyd professional licensing consultant" it's a police channel because thats what i'm hearing on it i tried looking that up in RR but nothing comes back saying it's a police channel i'm positive it's in KY tho

Ok - I do see that there is an entry for KY State Police on 453.6625 in Pike County KY which I believe is closer to you than Floyd VA. (Found by doing a Frequency Data query of the RR database)




What *.csv files are you using for your frequency lists in FMPx? Are you using only the VA.csv file? Since you are near both WV and KY, you probably want to use USA.csv so that you include the neighboring states. Alternatively, you can combine multiple state.csv files. See Notes.txt for details.

they're is 151.6750 and it says' it's "VA-KY COMMUNICATIONS 3181 RADIO ROAD/NORTON/WISE" and it is a NXDN48 channel with police on it as well but on RR they're isn't a NXDN for police only fire.

The 151.67 frequency looks like Wise County (High Knob,VA) Sheriff. It is listed as NXDN48 in the database.

 

[AngWay]

Ok - I do see that there is an entry for KY State Police on 453.6625 in Pike County KY which I believe is closer to you than Floyd VA. (Found by doing a Frequency Data query of the RR database)
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What *.csv files are you using for your frequency lists in FMPx? Are you using only the VA.csv file? Since you are near both WV and KY, you probably want to use USA.csv so that you include the neighboring states. Alternatively, you can combine multiple state.csv files. See Notes.txt for details.



The 151.67 frequency looks like Wise County (High Knob,VA) Sheriff. It is listed as NXDN48 in the database.View attachment 168947

Ok great thanks for the screenshots now i know what i can do... i only have VA.csv in the cfg file i will add USA... on the miles and bearing i just left it at 99.9 is it crucial i get this right? Thanks again

 

[RMason]

Ok great thanks for the screenshots now i know what i can do... i only have VA.csv in the cfg file i will add USA... on the miles and bearing i just left it at 99.9 is it crucial i get this right? Thanks again

You are probably ok with the default distance of 99.9miles. FMP will report the closest location from the frequency list. Adding the adjacent states to your frequency list should remove your issue. If frequencies continue to be reported which are outside your range, you may need to reduce the search distance.