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TG 28240
QDP2012, you're absolutely right, I heard the same thing but it is only one side (the dispatchers side) of the conversation, which I find interesting.
Also, I found out today why Facilities Management at UVA is not on the 800 system. All of their personnel are issued Verizon Wireless cell phone of various makes and models. Supervisors get the iphones and others get the flip phones. They carry the cell phones to talk back to Facilties management on Alderman Rd. However, (as with all phones) there are areas on grounds and off grounds that verizon does not have good cell phone reception and they still must use their personal phones. I can confirm this because I have verizon wireless and it can get spotty around grounds.
I have Continuing Education CERT class tonight dealing with emergency communications and how to use the radios on the 800 system. ECC I don't believe that ECC upgraded those radios to the new radios yet, so they should still be the XTS 2500 or 5000 radios. I'll let you know what I find.
QDP2012, you're absolutely right, I heard the same thing but it is only one side (the dispatchers side) of the conversation, which I find interesting.
Also, I found out today why Facilities Management at UVA is not on the 800 system. All of their personnel are issued Verizon Wireless cell phone of various makes and models. Supervisors get the iphones and others get the flip phones. They carry the cell phones to talk back to Facilties management on Alderman Rd. However, (as with all phones) there are areas on grounds and off grounds that verizon does not have good cell phone reception and they still must use their personal phones. I can confirm this because I have verizon wireless and it can get spotty around grounds.
I have Continuing Education CERT class tonight dealing with emergency communications and how to use the radios on the 800 system. ECC I don't believe that ECC upgraded those radios to the new radios yet, so they should still be the XTS 2500 or 5000 radios. I'll let you know what I find.
I've been hearing both sides on TG 28240 -- field-units on calls and dispatchers talking with them.
Interesting info about UVA FM's cell phones. I wonder if they will keep their VHF radios' licenses long-term or let them expire. UVA FM units respond on certain types of fire calls, much like VDOT or the gas companies do. Cell phones might be sufficient, but in some incidents (like past events involving gas-leaks, etc.), they might want an environment-safe radio instead of a cell phone. I might be wrong, but a few years ago, some people were trying to get commercial cell sites added on Grounds for better coverage. I think AT+T was in that discussion, but Verizon wasn't. Such discussion(s) at that time might have been less than formal/official, and might have ended for a variety of reasons. Maybe they have added cell-sites/repeaters since then.
Today, radio-maintenance has been using TG 35280 to verify RID/UID info with CECC for various F/R apparatus' radios. This might be a hint that the radio-programming is being updated, and/or that new radios are being deployed.
Thanks for sharing,
Which talkgroup have you been hearing Radio Maintenance talk on? It sounds like you were saying 35280.
Also, 30324 came up and that's not in the database. The audio was garbled and it might well have been Charlottesville Police (investigations maybe?).
ECC should be at the class tonight, I will see if my contact is there and ask him about everything. Thanks for keeping me apprised!
Also, 30324 came up and that's not in the database. The audio was garbled and it might well have been Charlottesville Police (investigations maybe?).
ECC should be at the class tonight, I will see if my contact is there and ask him about everything. Thanks for keeping me apprised!
Radio Maintenance is/was contacting CECC on AFR Response (TG 35280) for the radio checks.
I have not logged TG 30324. It might be difficult to determine its assignment if radio maintenance is currently adjusting the TG line-up. Otherwise, I'd guess it is an encrypted CPD Tac channel.
Also, with the current "00032 decimal/002 hex" spacing between TG's, TG 30324 lands between the expected values of 30320 and 30352. If they are making major changes to the system, the "00032 decimal/002 hex" spacing might not be a preference/requirement any more.
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I had to turn my walkie in last monday to have it reprogrammed. I'm not sure what changes are being made, but they added a new TG on quickzone b at position 2 called CFRESP. I've been told that Charlottesville Fire may decide to start using their own response channel, independent of ACFR Resp (35280). They also added some TG's labeled SVFR1, SVFR2, SVPD1. These are supposed to be patches or something from mobile repeaters being installed in vehicles in the Scottsville area.
We received an email saying the radios were being rebanded, but I was under the impression that already occurred some years ago.
We received an email saying the radios were being rebanded, but I was under the impression that already occurred some years ago.
With a second Response TG, I wondered if it was going to be used to separate AFR from CFD responses. Coverage-dead-spots have long been a problem in the Scottsville-area, even with the old analog system, so mobile repeaters make sense. Even if they install another repeater tower on the South side, mobile repeaters probably would be useful.
I might be wrong, but if they are moving from a Motorola SmartZone system to a P25 Phase II (capable) system then they might call the process "rebanding" just for convenience.
Thanks for sharing the updated info, and for your service.
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There is some sort of small remote base or possibly a repeater at the big tower just across the river from Scottsville and it is operated by the ECC. There is an outdoor cabinet there. Don't know any more than that.
New Talkgroups for 800 Mhz
Hello Everyone,
I have made a list of talkgroups that I have heard the last few days on the 800 mhz system that are not in the database.
25008: Sounds like maybe Public Works??
34320: Usually encrypted traffic (PD investigations??)
43084: Public works??
Also, on my 996XT I have noticed that QDP2012's comment about the new 28240(?) is definitely being simulcast with 35248 (existing Response channel) It's going to be interesting to see what the rebanding did when i get ahold of one of the radios.
Andrew
Hello Everyone,
I have made a list of talkgroups that I have heard the last few days on the 800 mhz system that are not in the database.
25008: Sounds like maybe Public Works??
34320: Usually encrypted traffic (PD investigations??)
43084: Public works??
Also, on my 996XT I have noticed that QDP2012's comment about the new 28240(?) is definitely being simulcast with 35248 (existing Response channel) It's going to be interesting to see what the rebanding did when i get ahold of one of the radios.
Andrew
I'm fairly certain TG 28240 is CFRESP (Charlottesville Fire's new response TG).
Does the clean-up of talkgroups correctly imply that they are not transitioning to a P25 Ph2 system, and will be staying with the current SmartNet system?
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The system they have is coming close to end of life. I don't thing this reprogramming had anything to do with that. A significant upgrade would be required for the infrastructure. Which means a big bill for the Ecc. I'd assume Motorola but when you put stuff out to bid anything can happen.
Changes to Radio System
So what exactly does changes in radio code plugs and the other stuff mean? Latest firmware? When they are changing the talkgroups around or cleaning up, what does that mean? Are they getting rid of the "B" talkgroups for Fire/Rescue that are rarely used? Just scratching my head here (and trying to read between the lines).
So what exactly does changes in radio code plugs and the other stuff mean? Latest firmware? When they are changing the talkgroups around or cleaning up, what does that mean? Are they getting rid of the "B" talkgroups for Fire/Rescue that are rarely used? Just scratching my head here (and trying to read between the lines).
There seems to be two separate things happening at the same time.
- 1) A possible migration from SmartNet to P25 Ph2 due to SmartNet's end-of-life. This will likely take a while, like the next year or two, based on funding
- 2) A reassignment of talkgroups on the existing SmartNet system, based on demand or administrative approval.
Since ACFR and CFD have basically parted-ways and modified their mutual aid contract accordingly, this might be the motivation for having a separate CFD response TG. The agencies' separation might also lead to a set of CFD Tac channels (analog and digital) separate from the ACFR Tac channels. I don't know; just guessing.
It seems that the public utilities agencies (RWSA, CPW, and ACSA) have migrated to the Trunked System, at least partially. There might be others in the planning-stage, who knows. If the larger cities could be used as examples, someone might choose to move the schools to the TRS for more direct access to CECC in major emergencies.
Even though CECC has a designated building on UVA Grounds to use as CEOC in major events, as far as I know CFD has equipped the new Station 10 with communications equipment to act as a city EOC for major city events. This might influence radio-programming and TG assignments as well. Not sure.
With all of the new users, or users wanting their own TGs, this could be part of the motivation for "cleaning-up" the TG assignments.
If I'm not mistaken, codeplugs are the hardware used to program radios. If the programming changes, the codeplug might also need to change accordingly. Just a guess.
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I heard that as well and thought it was unusual. He marked up on FRDISP and was informed to switch to FRRESP. He never made an appearance on FRRESP or ATAC3. He also didn't answer when ECC called him on FRRESP. I can confirm this ID is not affiliated with "East Rivanna".
A few hours ago, on the primary APD 1 TG, it sounded like the Scottsville officer was using either a patch or an additional repeater, like a vehicular-repeater or possibly the local one quoted above.
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