Cherry Hill Police/Fire/Misc frequencies

[jdaleo23]

I live in Cherry Hill and I remember a LONG time ago on my RS Pro-106 I could listen in to police chatter.. I found my radio in a box, still works, however I don't hear anything anymore on the trunked system. Have they all been encrypted on the police side? I'm trying to get my radio updated with the latest frequencies for Police, Fire and anything else relevant in the Cherry Hill / Camden County area.

Would anyone happen to have a PSREdit file, or even a CSV with anything that could be fun to listen to from home? I'm trying to remember how to use the software and radio, since it hasn't been touched in about 6 years.

Thank you all!

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but:
1. Cherry Hill Police along with the rest of Camden County are fully encrypted meaning they cannot be monitored with any scanner, they've been that way for over a decade now
2. Although Fire & EMS are in the clear you won't be able to bring them in with a Pro 106 given the fact it doesn't trunk track P25 Phase-II.
Strongly recommended to pick up a Uniden SDS100 to overcome simulcast distortion you'll likely face with any other supported scanner. Your county's system is linked below. Mode "T" talkgroups are clear. Mode "TE" are fully encrypted

Camden County Public Safety Trunking System, Camden County, New Jersey

Camden County Public Safety Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

 

[jdaleo23]

Thank you for the information! So essentially, this whole trunked group can be deleted, since it's all encrypted now, and my radio won't pick anything up, right?


And I still have a lot of other, i believe older frequencies, tied into a PD scanlist. Wonder if any of it's still relevant as well. I still see these frequencies referenced here (Camden County, New Jersey (NJ) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference).. they're listed as law enforcement, but are they just old systems that aren't used anymore?


Also, i have these in my Fire/EMS group, and get hits from time to time. Again, is it just because i'm getting hits on an old network that's rarely used, and having a newer radio (SDS100) that could trunk track the newer P25 Phase-II would open up more chatter?


I'll check out the SDS100. Would like to be able to add/remove whole groups, as I travel, so see what I can get. Probably best to get a premium membership so it's easier to import into the program and radio, huh?

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

Yeah the legacy T band (500mhz) frequencies are long gone now, the analog days are over. Paging for fire/EMS is still heard on 154.430

 

[jdaleo23]

So removing the trunked data and the 500mhz data from what I have, that pretty much leaves me almost empty, haha. Unfortunately it sounds like my scanner won't really pick up much anymore, since it looks like mostly everything is on P25 Phase-II and with a lot also being encrypted, obviously nothing will pick those up..is that fair to say? Wondering if it's worth grabbing an SDS100, for the very limited amount of channels i'd be able to get in my area anymore.

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

it looks like mostly everything is on P25 Phase-II and with a lot also being encrypted, obviously nothing will pick those up..is that fair to say? Wondering if it's worth grabbing an SDS100, for the very limited amount of channels i'd be able to get in my area anymore.

Getting into more detail with what I alluded to in post #2, every mode "T" talkgroup on the system can be picked up (Fire, EMS, Public Works) but Police cannot be (mode "TE" = full encryption) I have first hand experience with this system & other simulcast systems in the surrounding counties, I ran my SDS100 side by side with my BCD436HP. The SDS100 blows the 436HP out of the water with simulcast systems. You'll notice a lot of stuttering, missed transmissions, partial transmissions, etc monitoring with any other supported scanner.

 

[jdaleo23]

Interesting.. good to know, thank you! Just trying to clear out all old stuff, remember how this all works, and learn new things at the same time! Looking around, and it looks like I might be able to listen in to the Philly Airport without much trouble, as it looks like a lot might still be on AM and FM bands? Wonder if I could pick that up from here.

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

I might be able to listen in to the Philly Airport without much trouble, as it looks like a lot might still be on AM and FM bands? Wonder if I could pick that up from here.

Worth a shot. Though I'm not sure if you'll be able to hear both sides of the conversation from Cherry Hill (you may be too far out to hear the controller side of the convo, but you should definitely hear the aircraft side

 

[KC3ECJ]

Yeah the legacy T band (500mhz) frequencies are long gone now, the analog days are over. Paging for fire/EMS is still heard on 154.430

As I understand they're still technically available as a backup which might be used if the trunked system had a failure.

 

[mshumeyk]

The SDS100 blows the 436HP out of the water with simulcast systems.

As someone who owns both scanners, I completely agree. Get an SDS100 or SDS200, as they are far superior for monitoring P25 Phase 2 simulcast systems compared to other Unidens marketed as P25 Phase 2 capable You will at least be able to monitor Camden County Fire and EMS. You should also program in the NJICS Statewide P25 Phase 2 system. On that system you would be able to monitor the NJ State Police in your area, the NJ Department of Transportation, as well as medical helicopter dispatching for the southern half of the state. Also, I am not sure of how far the Philadelpha PD/FD P25 system penetrates into Camden County but you might be able to pick that up. By the way, the SDS scanners are programmed with basically the entire US Radioreference Database, so checking out various systems and frequencies is easy. You can even just punch in your zip code and a mileage range and it will scan everything in the database in your vicinity.

 

[KC3ECJ]

As someone who owns both scanners, I completely agree. Get an SDS100 or SDS200, as they are far superior for monitoring P25 Phase 2 simulcast systems compared to other Unidens marketed as P25 Phase 2 capable You will at least be able to monitor Camden County Fire and EMS. You should also program in the NJICS Statewide P25 Phase 2 system. On that system you would be able to monitor the NJ State Police in your area, the NJ Department of Transportation, as well as medical helicopter dispatching for the southern half of the state. Also, I am not sure of how far the Philadelpha PD/FD P25 system penetrates into Camden County but you might be able to pick that up. By the way, the SDS scanners are programmed with basically the entire US Radioreference Database, so checking out various systems and frequencies is easy. You can even just punch in your zip code and a mileage range and it will scan everything in the database in your vicinity.

The Philly system reaches quite well into Camden County.

 

[jdaleo23]

As someone who owns both scanners, I completely agree. Get an SDS100 or SDS200, as they are far superior for monitoring P25 Phase 2 simulcast systems compared to other Unidens marketed as P25 Phase 2 capable You will at least be able to monitor Camden County Fire and EMS. You should also program in the NJICS Statewide P25 Phase 2 system. On that system you would be able to monitor the NJ State Police in your area, the NJ Department of Transportation, as well as medical helicopter dispatching for the southern half of the state. Also, I am not sure of how far the Philadelpha PD/FD P25 system penetrates into Camden County but you might be able to pick that up. By the way, the SDS scanners are programmed with basically the entire US Radioreference Database, so checking out various systems and frequencies is easy. You can even just punch in your zip code and a mileage range and it will scan everything in the database in your vicinity.

Just want to make sure I understood the last part, in the radio itself I can enter in a zip and it'll scan frequencies in that area? I was looking for an easy way to scan local frequencies as I travel, and having that feature sounds like it'd be perfect for me. Is there a way to have it pull in the latest DB of frequencies?

 

[mshumeyk]

The SDS100 and SDS200 are "software defined radios", quite different from scanners you have used in the past. I would suggest opening the "WIKI" menu on the RadioReference Main Page, selecting "radios" and going down the alphabetical list to the SDS radios. There is a wealth of information there.

As for your question, these radios are great for travelling. Everything is alphanumerically labeled so you can see what you are listening to. There are more options in these radios than you can count. Yes, you can enter a zip code and it will scan agencies within the range you select. You can select what service types (Law, Fire, Business, Utility, etc) you want to hear and what you want to exclude. You can attach the optional GPS receiver to the radio to automatically switch to an area when you are driving. You will see that you program the radio through the free Uniden Sentinel Software. You might want to download it just to see how it works, and play around with creating Favorite Lists now even if you aren't sure you will buy the radio. Like I said, these radios are different from what you have used before and it will take a while to get familiar with them, but they are the only scanners that will do well on the Camden system and the NJICS system. Good Luck!

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

Is there a way to have it pull in the latest DB of frequencies?

Yes, as long as you download the latest database file via Sentinel and upload it to your scanner.

I was looking for an easy way to scan local frequencies as I travel, and having that feature sounds like it'd be perfect for me.

Consider GPS. This thread has more info

 

[Scannerfreak6743]

So removing the trunked data and the 500mhz data from what I have, that pretty much leaves me almost empty, haha. Unfortunately it sounds like my scanner won't really pick up much anymore, since it looks like mostly everything is on P25 Phase-II and with a lot also being encrypted, obviously nothing will pick those up..is that fair to say? Wondering if it's worth grabbing an SDS100, for the very limited amount of channels i'd be able to get in my area anymore.

In my opinion, it is not worth paying for a $500 - $600 scanner in Camden Co just to receive FD and EMS. You can still hear FD/EMS pages on 154.430.

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

In my opinion, it is not worth paying for a $500 - $600 scanner in Camden Co just to receive FD and EMS. You can still hear FD/EMS pages on 154.430.

Another alternative for a fraction of the cost of the SDSx00s, particularly for a stationary operation would be an SDR with DSDPlus FastLane or SDRTrunk (both software apps are free). I highly recommend the SDRPlay line of SDRs versus the RTL-SDRs due to their greater 10MHz usable bandwidth spread versus the latter's 3.2MHz spread.