• Effective immediately we will be deleting, without notice, any negative threads or posts that deal with the use of encryption and streaming of scanner audio.

    We've noticed a huge increase in rants and negative posts that revolve around agencies going to encryption due to the broadcasting of scanner audio on the internet. It's now worn out and continues to be the same recycled rants. These rants hijack the threads and derail the conversation. They no longer have a place anywhere on this forum other than in the designated threads in the Rants forum in the Tavern.

    If you violate these guidelines your post will be deleted without notice and an infraction will be issued. We are not against discussion of this issue. You just need to do it in the right place. For example:
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Citizen, the real-time crime alerting app, is growing in big cities using Scanners

nowires

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I am glad I got decades of enjoyment of this hobby before the internet carpetbaggers swooped in to capitalize on the hobby and suck it dry leaving a hollow carcass.


Looks like the founder and VCs will get rich on all the free labor buying scanners and keying in the data. So far 12 million is the initial value of the company.
Al Gore created the internet if that helps...but the part of the internet he created is considered...to be...well....illegal...and he also claims global warming is going on despite the laws of thermodynamics and casual observation state the opposite.

Like are they going to give the creators/maintainers of the Citizen app all the big E keys so they can listen in? There should be some AI that automates the whole process if electronic equipment is that advanced these days. Does the P25/Nexedge/DMR/etc come with a Closed Captioning package that you can connect to a USB port and can be programmed to feed directly into the app?
 

NakedFaerie

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Wonder if there is an app like this in Australia? The cops and government here cover up crimes to make it look like its safe but its not. In reality crime is rising but they lie to us.
We need apps like this to show they are wrong and keep us safe.
 
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I sent citizen a resume to fill their radio tech installer job, have not heard a peep from them. Their business model seems to be starting in big cities with high crime and dense populations that can feed them info.
 

blantonl

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Looks like the founder and VCs will get rich on all the free labor buying scanners and keying in the data. So far 12 million is the initial value of the company.
12 million isn't the initial value of the company. They've been funded with a total of 13 million dollars over 4 rounds, with Sequoia Capital being the lead investor.

And from what I can tell, they are burning through cash with no real (public) plan to make money.
 
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More cell phone toting, self-entitled, whackers at a breaking news scene are not going going to be well received by either the emergency services nor professional media.
Professional media are there for one purpose, to sell advertising by providing informative / provocative / sensational content to keep eyeballs glued to the screen.

Most of us here have a professional license or certification, let a govt agency suggest doing something similar for reporters like they do for insurance agents, hair dressers, etc and watch the reaction.
 

supernix

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Nobody has any proof that the public is listening to the apps and rushing to the scene of any event. It is complete ignorance to make that statement, you have zero proof to substantiate it.
Seems the people making these ignorant comments never thought about the fact that nobody wants to be the 100th person in line waiting to get by and you don't see anything.
 

Anderegg

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I literally know several people who listen to scanner apps and show up at the scenes I am covering...

...with that being said, they typically offer my station free cell phone video of aspects of the story I missed before my arrival.

As for Speedways licensing suggestion...in my neck of the woods, a "press pass" is really no more than a form of courtesy card, just shows you were willing to jump trough some hoops. I know one local first amendment auditor type that had his press pass revoked and was fighting about it.

Paul

Nobody has any proof that the public is listening to the apps and rushing to the scene of any event. It is complete ignorance to make that statement, you have zero proof to substantiate it.
Seems the people making these ignorant comments never thought about the fact that nobody wants to be the 100th person in line waiting to get by and you don't see anything.
 

nowires

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Nobody has any proof that the public is listening to the apps and rushing to the scene of any event. It is complete ignorance to make that statement, you have zero proof to substantiate it.
Seems the people making these ignorant comments never thought about the fact that nobody wants to be the 100th person in line waiting to get by and you don't see anything.
I think it has more to do with the Duhpartment of Homeland Security giving local governments grant money to participate in the somewhat unnecessary scheme of things.
 
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When I went through the San Diego county sheriff's academy in the late 70s we were told anything stating media or press was considered valid ID. SDPD's media credential requirements include your SSN even though I've been told NCIC records checks no longer use them.
 

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I checked out reviews on the Citizen app. I was thinking of installing it on my IPad. Many of the reviews state that the app wants your location on at all times. It drains your battery quickly too. Hard pass. I already have a number of scanner apps on my IPad that keep me appraised of what's going on nearby.
 

robertwbob

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Sounds like a few are indirectly saying we dont need scanners?
Kinda off track a small bit but when the tornados went by my house,1 did small damage,i breathed a tad easier knowing the last 1 missed me by a mile,sadly heard a friends mom n dad were killed, heard what roads were open.
But then we all have opinions,i think unless the higher ups destroyed that like most anything else they deem bad for them.
 

wadenbc

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I have to disagree with folks upset over the Citizen app. Any app that helps keep people safe is a good thing. So far, this app has been credited with sending out alerts covering active shooters, helped find missing children and missing people with dementia. I am hopeful this app covers all major cities in the USA and then moved into Canada. Anyone that doesn't like the app either is (a) a dinosaur, (b) anti scanner anti freedom of info or (c) a conspiracy theory nut.
 
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