• Effective immediately we will be deleting, without notice, any negative threads or posts that deal with the use of encryption and streaming of scanner audio.

    We've noticed a huge increase in rants and negative posts that revolve around agencies going to encryption due to the broadcasting of scanner audio on the internet. It's now worn out and continues to be the same recycled rants. These rants hijack the threads and derail the conversation. They no longer have a place anywhere on this forum other than in the designated threads in the Rants forum in the Tavern.

    If you violate these guidelines your post will be deleted without notice and an infraction will be issued. We are not against discussion of this issue. You just need to do it in the right place. For example:
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Citizen, the real-time crime alerting app, is growing in big cities using Scanners

ten13

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Just about all the news on NYC TV news channels which has a video attached to it is from this Citizen app people. Sometimes it's pretty good, since it's taken during the very early stages of the incident. Something the regular (union) crews are seldom able to get.

The only difference between now, with this Citizen app, and NYC news gathering 40 years ago with freelance camera crews, is that anyone can do it...you don't need to invest thousands into cameras, video equipment, cars, crew salaries, etc. The point is, there's always been "citizens" taking pictures of things, it's just that technology has allowed it to go mainstream.

Sometimes the news shows only use a still picture taken by a passerby.

The only question I have is, is Citizen app getting paid by the stations and, by extension, are those who shot the video or picture getting paid?
 
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In Indy we had Home safe town but that went away when we switched CADs in October. Last I heard the PSAP folks were working with CrimeReports™ but I can't get real time data. Supposedly the former CAD vendor has a patent on the way the data was fed to safetown but I see other counties in IN and other states using it, so I wonder what the real story is.
 

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The only question I have is, is Citizen app getting paid by the stations and, by extension, are those who shot the video or picture getting paid?

No, Citizen (and concurrently the user filming) do not receive any monetary compensation from the videos or information that is transmitted/received. In fact Citizen works with multiple "Buff Pages" as well as "Organization pages" such as NYCFireWire, FDNY Firehouse pages, and other news media from scanner buffs to national news and promotes the sharing of our videos for free with minor requirements (Attribution either written or verbal and keeping our watermark in the video when it is downloaded).

As well there is quite a bit of additional information on success stories, implementation, as well as case studies of effects we have had on areas served. All easily accessible and reviewable on our official Medium page.

 

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What are these “R1s”? What do they look like?

Edit: In the beginning of the Forbes article, it states “Citizen’s R1 scanners, a small, squat black box that instantly captures the 911 report, digitizes the audio and uploads it to the cloud”
 

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No, Citizen (and concurrently the user filming) do not receive any monetary compensation from the videos or information that is transmitted/received. In fact Citizen works with multiple "Buff Pages" as well as "Organization pages" such as NYCFireWire, FDNY Firehouse pages, and other news media from scanner buffs to national news and promotes the sharing of our videos for free with minor requirements (Attribution either written or verbal and keeping our watermark in the video when it is downloaded).

As well there is quite a bit of additional information on success stories, implementation, as well as case studies of effects we have had on areas served. All easily accessible and reviewable on our official Medium page.

What is your role with the Citizen team?
 

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In Indy we had Home safe town but that went away when we switched CADs in October. Last I heard the PSAP folks were working with CrimeReports™ but I can't get real time data. Supposedly the former CAD vendor has a patent on the way the data was fed to safetown but I see other counties in IN and other states using it, so I wonder what the real story is.
Many now have gone to PulsePoint for Fire/EMS now that SafeTown has been canned. Currently they are still working on figuring out how to make it all work with CrimeReports and PulsePoint all linking into our CAD systems. There could even be lawsuits involved if things get to tied up with proprietary crappola. Hopefully it all gets solved soon.
 

KD2JFA

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According to his linkedin page:

View attachment 74136

Yep that's me! I was the first employee hired by the initial concept team and have been actively working for Citizen full time since the beginning (even the Vigilante days).


What are these “R1s”? What do they look like?

Edit: In the beginning of the Forbes article, it states “Citizen’s R1 scanners, a small, squat black box that instantly captures the 911 report, digitizes the audio and uploads it to the cloud”
At this time, that is the only description I can confirm. Hopefully in the future we will have more in-depth analysis to share with everyone. :)
 
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