CapStar362
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sure gimme some time to get it all ready and lined up and ill post it
Clayton County needs updating
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CapStar362
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453.40000 KJP274 CCFD Ch 1 Fire Dispatch <-- Main Dispatch Channel for ALL FD/EMS
453.30000 KJP274 CCFD Ch 2 Fire Ch 2 <-- Common Calls Channel
460.60000 WPNP314 CCFD Ch 3 <-- Commercial and Industrial Fires/EMS Channel
460.35000 KNCG451 CCFD Ch 4 <-- have never heard anything on this channel
453.32500 KSV692 CCFD Ch 5 Public Works (Fire/EMS Ch. 5) FM Public Works <-- I Dont Monitor this
452.27500 WPEK869 RM CCFD Ch 6 Transportation (Fire/EMS Ch. 6) <-- Have Never heard anything on this Channel either
460.62500 WPCH572 RM 107.2 PL CCFD Ch 7 <-- Special Ops / Special Dispatch Channel
453.52500 KNCG451 RM CCFD Ch 8 Water Authority (Fire/EMS Ch. 8) FM Utilities <-- I Dont monitor this either
( 463.00000 WNQE751 RM EMS MED 1 EMS Med-1 FM EMS-Tac
463.02500 WNQE751 RM EMS MED 2 EMS Med-2 FM EMS-Tac
463.05000 WNQE751 RM EMS MED 3 EMS Med-3 FM EMS-Tac
463.07500 WNQE751 RM EMS MED 4 EMS Med-4 FM EMS-Tac
463.12500 WNQE751 RM EMS MED 6 EMS Med-6 FM EMS-Tac
463.17500 WNQE751 RM EMS MED 9 EMS Med-9 FM EMS-Tac
453.08750 WPEG312 M CCFD/EMS Trn Fire/EMS Training FM Multi-Talk
458.00000 B CCFD/EMS ALL Fire/EMS All Call FM Interop
453.61250 WPWA510 RM CCFD/EMS Fire/EMS FM Fire Dispatch )
^ ^ ^ ^
I have checked, but never heard anything Clayton County specific heard on those freq's
151.32500 WNUA851 CCPD North Police North District FM Law Dispatch <-- "District 1"
150.99500 WPLF542 CCPD South Police South District FM Law Dispatch <-- "District 2"
155.76000 "UNKNOWN" CCPD Channel 7 *ENCRYPTED* Known to be the Narcotics and Gang/Drug Channel
158.94000 KZO495 CCSO Sheriff FM Law Talk
158.73000 KNCW943 CCSO OPS Sheriff Operations FM Law Tac
158.89500 KZO495 CCSO CDL Sheriff CDL FM Law Tac <-- I believe this is the Dispatch Channel
153.81500 KZO495 CCSO Sheriff FM Law Talk
153.90500 KZO495 CCSO Sheriff FM Law Talk
159.43500 WNUA305 RM 107.2 PL CCSO Sheriff FM Law Dispatch
Forest Park, City of
Frequency License Type Tone Alpha Tag Description Mode Tag
851.71250 WPDK557 RM 127.3 PL FPD Dispatch Police Dispatch FM Law Dispatch
Morrow, City of
Frequency License Type Tone Alpha Tag Description Mode Tag
151.25000 KNAW612 RM 107.2 PL MPD Dispatch Police Dispatch FM Law Dispatch <-- this is the PD Dispatch Freq
155.77500 Morrow FD Dispatch
Riverdale, City of
Frequency License Type Tone Alpha Tag Description Mode Tag
151.25750 WPMR716 RM 107.2 PL RFD Dispatch Fire Dispatch FM Fire Dispatch
154.99500 KFV886 BM 107.2 PL RPD Dispatch Police Dispatch FM Law Dispatch
Okay thats everything i know about PD/FD-EMS
453.30000 KJP274 CCFD Ch 2 Fire Ch 2 <-- Common Calls Channel
460.60000 WPNP314 CCFD Ch 3 <-- Commercial and Industrial Fires/EMS Channel
460.35000 KNCG451 CCFD Ch 4 <-- have never heard anything on this channel
453.32500 KSV692 CCFD Ch 5 Public Works (Fire/EMS Ch. 5) FM Public Works <-- I Dont Monitor this
452.27500 WPEK869 RM CCFD Ch 6 Transportation (Fire/EMS Ch. 6) <-- Have Never heard anything on this Channel either
460.62500 WPCH572 RM 107.2 PL CCFD Ch 7 <-- Special Ops / Special Dispatch Channel
453.52500 KNCG451 RM CCFD Ch 8 Water Authority (Fire/EMS Ch. 8) FM Utilities <-- I Dont monitor this either
( 463.00000 WNQE751 RM EMS MED 1 EMS Med-1 FM EMS-Tac
463.02500 WNQE751 RM EMS MED 2 EMS Med-2 FM EMS-Tac
463.05000 WNQE751 RM EMS MED 3 EMS Med-3 FM EMS-Tac
463.07500 WNQE751 RM EMS MED 4 EMS Med-4 FM EMS-Tac
463.12500 WNQE751 RM EMS MED 6 EMS Med-6 FM EMS-Tac
463.17500 WNQE751 RM EMS MED 9 EMS Med-9 FM EMS-Tac
453.08750 WPEG312 M CCFD/EMS Trn Fire/EMS Training FM Multi-Talk
458.00000 B CCFD/EMS ALL Fire/EMS All Call FM Interop
453.61250 WPWA510 RM CCFD/EMS Fire/EMS FM Fire Dispatch )
^ ^ ^ ^
I have checked, but never heard anything Clayton County specific heard on those freq's
151.32500 WNUA851 CCPD North Police North District FM Law Dispatch <-- "District 1"
150.99500 WPLF542 CCPD South Police South District FM Law Dispatch <-- "District 2"
155.76000 "UNKNOWN" CCPD Channel 7 *ENCRYPTED* Known to be the Narcotics and Gang/Drug Channel
158.94000 KZO495 CCSO Sheriff FM Law Talk
158.73000 KNCW943 CCSO OPS Sheriff Operations FM Law Tac
158.89500 KZO495 CCSO CDL Sheriff CDL FM Law Tac <-- I believe this is the Dispatch Channel
153.81500 KZO495 CCSO Sheriff FM Law Talk
153.90500 KZO495 CCSO Sheriff FM Law Talk
159.43500 WNUA305 RM 107.2 PL CCSO Sheriff FM Law Dispatch
Forest Park, City of
Frequency License Type Tone Alpha Tag Description Mode Tag
851.71250 WPDK557 RM 127.3 PL FPD Dispatch Police Dispatch FM Law Dispatch
Morrow, City of
Frequency License Type Tone Alpha Tag Description Mode Tag
151.25000 KNAW612 RM 107.2 PL MPD Dispatch Police Dispatch FM Law Dispatch <-- this is the PD Dispatch Freq
155.77500 Morrow FD Dispatch
Riverdale, City of
Frequency License Type Tone Alpha Tag Description Mode Tag
151.25750 WPMR716 RM 107.2 PL RFD Dispatch Fire Dispatch FM Fire Dispatch
154.99500 KFV886 BM 107.2 PL RPD Dispatch Police Dispatch FM Law Dispatch
Okay thats everything i know about PD/FD-EMS
Thanks for the more detailed update.
RFEngineering101
Member
Clayton released an RFP today for new P25 700 MHz simulcast system,, To be awarded by the end of the year.
CapStar362
Member
can i see the details?
MTS2000des
5B2_BEE00 Czar
Enjoy scanning Clayton while you can, read section 3.2.2 of the RFP, the new system will be encrypted end-to-end.
RFEngineering101
Member
I just browsed through the RFP myself. Looks like anyone can attend the pre-bid (no requirement to get on any kind of list first) but the RFP also states that they are looking for a vendor who has MANUFACTURED radio equipment on top of designing and installation.
That just about rules out everyone but Harris and Motorola. I guess EFJ could bid but other than some subscribers in Marietta and Dunwood, I don't know of an EFJ "system" in the State.
That just about rules out everyone but Harris and Motorola. I guess EFJ could bid but other than some subscribers in Marietta and Dunwood, I don't know of an EFJ "system" in the State.
b7spectra
EMS Dispatcher
And if Clayton County wants to save MILLIONS of dollars, they should do like City of Marietta and put ALL non-Public Safety on an LTR system with a TG that is patched to the 911 DTRS Center for interoperability.
Naw, Clayton County would never go for it!
It also states they want interoperability with several jurisdictions. One if Henry County - EDACS! Wonder how that is going to work?
Naw, Clayton County would never go for it!
It also states they want interoperability with several jurisdictions. One if Henry County - EDACS! Wonder how that is going to work?
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CapStar362
Member
well guess i gotta start saving for a new scanner......s&W#!!!
RFEngineering101
Member
They would probably have to take donor radios from Henry and plug them into a ROIP solution such as Twisted Pair's WAVE or Cisco's IPICS. Or in Moto's case, MotoBridge. Otherwise the only interop would be via 7TAC/8TAC conventional overlay.
Henry is supposedly upgrading their switch (if they haven't already) and will gradually upgrade their sites and subscribers to go P25 in the near future.
RFEngineering101
Member
Anyone here know why the Clayton 700 MHz project was abruptly put on hold? They put an indefinite hold addendum on their website the day before the Pre-Bid metting. Anyone??
CapStar362
Member
probably found something else useless to spend it on!!
b7spectra
EMS Dispatcher
Like lawyers to pay all the cases the county is losing?
RFEngineering101
Member
You guys are brutal.
The County is stepping up to the plate to bring you out of the radio dark ages. I was just curious as to why the RFP got put on hold so abruptly.
The County is stepping up to the plate to bring you out of the radio dark ages. I was just curious as to why the RFP got put on hold so abruptly.
b7spectra
EMS Dispatcher
Because they can't afford it?
MTS2000des
5B2_BEE00 Czar
P25 phase I is 15 year old technology.
My guess is they ran out of money.
What I fail to understand is why Clayco doesn't work with the city of Atlanta to expand their Astro 25 DTRS into the county. Would be much cheaper to add the needed sites and channels and just join the system.
But then this would actually require governments to work together, and this doesn't fit well with the "separate but equal" mentality Georgia local governments are renowned for.:roll:
RFEngineering101
Member
Who said anything about Phase 1? Harris and Motorola can already deliver their systems Phase 2 ready. There is a 99.999999999999% chance that Clayton's new system will be one or the other. Clayton will get a Phase 2 ready system. Whether or not they use the functionalilty of it is a different story.
And COA is not upgraded to Phase 2 yet. Neither is Cobb, DeKalb or UASI. That will come with some future system firmware upgrade. Probably 7.9 with partial functionality. 7.10 or 7.11 to full functionality. The other x-factor is how much equipment also would have to be replaced. Just because you own a Phase 1 system and you get a firmware upgrade that will allow you to do TDMA doesn't mean your equipment can handle it. In many cases, you might as well bulldoze the entire rack if you want to get Phase 2 out of a system that was sold as Phase 1.
So I'm not sure what your point is about Phase 1 being antiquated and Clayton should just go on COA. That doesn't make sense when combined with your Phase 1 comment.
There's also this little thing called autonomy. Think Clayton wants to piggy back off of another regional system and lose out on controlling the bandwidth, talk groups, fleet mapping, etc,etc??
Me neither.
Yup, your scanning days are numbered in Clayton. Looks like they will do what Gwinnett did.
3.2.3 Encryption
Digital voice encryption, using federally approved digital encryption schemes (i.e. DES/AES), is a
required feature of the new network.
Two modes of encrypted digital voice operation are desired:
1. Unit-to-unit, where conversations in an encrypted talk group are secure. These cannot be
monitored at a dispatch or control point.
2. Dispatcher-to-unit, where conversations between the County’s E-911 Center, Backup E-911
Center and field units are secure.
The new network shall provide encrypted transmission so that system access delays are equal to those in ADDENDUM #1 RFP PKG. #11-20 RADIO PROJECT PAGE 39 OF 127
the clear mode. Encrypted transmissions shall not degrade the operation of clear-voice features nor
lengthen system access or audio transport delays to other users. Encryption shall not degrade the range or coverage less than normal digital performance. Note, the logging recorder must be able to record encrypted communications as specified in section 8.6, Digital Voice Logging Recorder.
3.2.3 Encryption
Digital voice encryption, using federally approved digital encryption schemes (i.e. DES/AES), is a
required feature of the new network.
Two modes of encrypted digital voice operation are desired:
1. Unit-to-unit, where conversations in an encrypted talk group are secure. These cannot be
monitored at a dispatch or control point.
2. Dispatcher-to-unit, where conversations between the County’s E-911 Center, Backup E-911
Center and field units are secure.
The new network shall provide encrypted transmission so that system access delays are equal to those in ADDENDUM #1 RFP PKG. #11-20 RADIO PROJECT PAGE 39 OF 127
the clear mode. Encrypted transmissions shall not degrade the operation of clear-voice features nor
lengthen system access or audio transport delays to other users. Encryption shall not degrade the range or coverage less than normal digital performance. Note, the logging recorder must be able to record encrypted communications as specified in section 8.6, Digital Voice Logging Recorder.
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