CMPD Protests Just Switched to Encrypted TAC channels

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jthorpe

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Conf. has been very buzy around 8 pm till 3 am. Like thy would like to keep there cop safe that bs . Just move them back to main dispatch and have someone shut down that dam app .
I have no idea what you just said but if you think it's bs that agencies are going encrypted for the fun of it just because, you're wrong. You can thank Broadcastify and the current climate of hatred and violence toward the police for encryption. It's not going away.
 

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I don't think that what he meant . I know it for safety . But if it a small town like Huntersville and Davidson where I live . I don't see why thy have to lock out there channels . How can we show respect to our police anymore thy like the community now what thy are doing . Thy are a great police dp .We buy the scanner for safety and for the hobby . It would be nice to know when the power is out or if there is a tornado is come .Our some one shoot a gun down the street from you .Our a tree is down .Our there is a car crash down the street . Heck if some one is robbing your house you know the cops are coming .I don't feal safe anymore
 
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I don't think that what he meant . I know it for safety . But if it a small town like Huntersville and Davidson where I live . I don't see why thy have to lock out there channels . How can we show respect to our police anymore . We buy the scanner for safety and for the hobby . It would be nice to know when the power is out or if there is a tornado is come .Our some one shoot a gun down the street from you .Our a tree is down .Our there is a car crash down the street . Heck if some one is robbing your house you know the cops are coming .

Because officer safety in small town departments is also important as well. It's a new day and age and police officers are being killed in 2020 more than in over 40 years... so it is what it is. It's not BS that police are thinking about their safety. It's reality of the day and time. This isn't 1985 anymore. If you're wondering about a power outage, listen to the power company. If you're worried about a tornado, turn on a weather radio. If you're wondering about a fire, listen to the fire department.
 

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well the solution to that is require them wear a seatbelt and take defensive driving classes. i'd pay an extra penny in sales tax for that.

and perhaps skip a whopper occasionally, its tough on the ole ticker.

Tell that to the widow and families of these officers stalked and killed. With people doing this I totally understand the push for encryption. What I don't understand is the attitude towards them by people like you.
 

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If being able to hear encrypted LE traffic is something you are interested in, I found a few links that may help you get some really nice radio equipment to monitor encrypted LE traffic.

 

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Let not fight .A lot of people are pissed off about this .We all care about the police .
 

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Tell that to the widow and families of these officers stalked and killed. With people doing this I totally understand the push for encryption. What I don't understand is the attitude towards them by people like you.

considering it accounts for about 40% of the causes of fatalities in the line of duty, it seems like an easier route to making a serious effort to preventing the deaths of LEO's.

the year to year numbers numbers have been remarkably stable since the widespread adoption of bullet-resistant vests.

its something that can be addressed, if people want to.


no need to get bent outta shape.
 

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well i'm sure i one-up myself sooner or later. perhaps now.

It's a new day and age and police officers are being killed in 2020 more than in over 40 years... so it is what it is. It's not BS that police are thinking about their safety. It's reality of the day and time. This isn't 1985 anymore.

ok well here are a selections of sources for those numbers, 1985 specifically in the FBI docs. i don't see where encryption or lack thereof has had any effect. i don't see much likelihood it can have any effect on them. the felonious deaths appear to be caused mainly by bad actors with firearms. there's not much you can do to have an effect on that either, aside from mandatory wearing of vests. Encryption is unlikely to have a prophylactic effect on COVID-19, which i suppose the "more than in over 40 years" bit was referring to.


2020 Gunfire: 25 in first half
2020

2019 Gunfire: 48
The Officer Down Memorial Page (ODMP)

1985 Gunfire: 70
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/Digitization/126498NCJRS.pdf

Just look.
https://nleomf.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Causes-Law-Enforcement-Deaths-2009-2018.pdf

Notice the variability
https://nleomf.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Officer-Deaths-by-Year-updated-4-10-2019.pdf

And the decade by decade trends up thru about 5 years ago.
Data on police officers killed since 1961 | Dan Wang

its all about Risk-Management and trying to change the things you actually have the power to change. If you want to lower LEO fatalities, your more likely to get results pursuing a reduction from accident/health causes (that are being ignored and of which one can act preventatively) than felonious acts of murder (which no one is ignoring, but are out of ones control except in the reactive). I don't see where encryption plays a role.
 

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well i'm sure i one-up myself sooner or later. perhaps now.



ok well here are a selections of sources for those numbers, 1985 specifically in the FBI docs. i don't see where encryption or lack thereof has had any effect. i don't see much likelihood it can have any effect on them. the felonious deaths appear to be caused mainly by bad actors with firearms. there's not much you can do to have an effect on that either, aside from mandatory wearing of vests. Encryption is unlikely to have a prophylactic effect on COVID-19, which i suppose the "more than in over 40 years" bit was referring to.


2020 Gunfire: 25 in first half
2020

2019 Gunfire: 48
The Officer Down Memorial Page (ODMP)

1985 Gunfire: 70
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/Digitization/126498NCJRS.pdf

Just look.
https://nleomf.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Causes-Law-Enforcement-Deaths-2009-2018.pdf

Notice the variability
https://nleomf.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Officer-Deaths-by-Year-updated-4-10-2019.pdf

And the decade by decade trends up thru about 5 years ago.
Data on police officers killed since 1961 | Dan Wang

its all about Risk-Management and trying to change the things you actually have the power to change. If you want to lower LEO fatalities, your more likely to get results pursuing a reduction from accident/health causes (that are being ignored and of which one can act preventatively) than felonious acts of murder (which no one is ignoring, but are out of ones control except in the reactive). I don't see where encryption plays a role.
You definitely one upped yourself. I'm sick of your BS about officer death stats because your response is so obtuse and ridiculous that I'm just going to go there with you. I'll just give you an analogy. You remind me of the approx 400lbs man who saw me at Dunkin one day. He was getting a dozen, I was getting some coffee. He started joking about cops and donuts and I just told him, "I find your statement ironic sir, but if you want to go for a run I'd be happy to go with you. We will see who passes out first". That was the end of that conversation..

As for rencryption, if you don't think that groups such as ANTIFA are monitoring police radio traffic and basing their movements off of them, I'm going to say you're wrong. That type of thing DIRECTLY impacts officer safety, hence encryption. I can't help that your feelings are hurt or that you think the big bad government should pay back your .03 cents of a police officer's salary, but it looks like you're just going to have to suck it up and get over it. That said, you can enjoy your weekend safely, thanks to the cops.
 
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