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Confusion about input/output tone vs. Transmit/Receive

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Deadcalm384

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If you are trying to program a repeater is the "Input tone" the same thing as the T-DCS or T-CTCS? Conversely, is the "output tone" the same as The R-DCS or R-CTCS? I am trying to access a repeater on 462.700 that the input tone is a DCS I think (provided by the owner so I'm not publishing) and the output tone is 141.3 (Which is different than the provided input tone and I'm struggling to understand what each tone means and how they function.
 

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Programming instructions should always be referenced to the user radio.

Input is the repeater receive frequency and the user radio transmit frequency.
Output is the repeater transmit frequency and the user radio receive frequency.

In Baofeng radio menus:
T-DCS is transmit DCS (or DPL)
T-CTCS transmit CTCSS (or PL)
R-DCS is receive DCS
R-CTCS is receive CTCSS
 

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And also keep in mind that you never need to program the repeaters output tone into your radio for things to work. The tone will help prevent you from hearing other repeaters/radios on the same frequency, but is in no way a requirement. The input tone is absolutely a requirement, or you will not be able to key the repeater.
 

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Programming instructions should always be referenced to the user radio.

Input is the repeater receive frequency and the user radio transmit frequency.
Output is the repeater transmit frequency and the user radio receive frequency.

In Baofeng radio menus:
T-DCS is transmit DCS (or DPL)
T-CTCS transmit CTCSS (or PL)
R-DCS is receive DCS
R-CTCS is receive CTCSS
Thanks, yes I apologize this is programming a UV-9G Baofeng. So would the output tone of 141.3 be considered the R-CTCSS? or does it need to be programmed into the radio anywhere?
 

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So would the output tone of 141.3 be considered the R-CTCSS?
Yes.
or does it need to be programmed into the radio anywhere?
Never program a receive tone unless know exactly what you are doing. Most of the time they are not necessary. It will prevent you from receiving anything unless the tone (if any) from the transmitting station matches. If there is no tone on the transmitting station or you programmed the wrong tone then you will wonder why you can't receive anything.
 

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Thanks, yes I apologize this is programming a UV-9G Baofeng. So would the output tone of 141.3 be considered the R-CTCSS? or does it need to be programmed into the radio anywhere?

As I said above, you do not need to program the 141.3 tone to use the repeater. The benefit of using that tone is that you will not hear other radios/repeaters on the same frequency, unless they are also using that tone. If you wanted to us it, it would be the R-CTCS in your radio.

Considering this is GMRS, it might definitely be wise to use the tone, as there can certainly be other repeaters/radios on the same frequency.
 
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