PhillyPhoto
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Does anyone know the connect tones for DC? Scanner enthusiests need not respond.
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LuiePL said:
Looks like you came to the wrong website.
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You do not need the CT to monitor the system with a scanner or with a Mot radio. If you really need it, there are ways to gather them, however I don't think you will find too many people here willing to help to bootleg onto the system.
But, if you want to monitor the system with a radio with a max scan list of 10 talkgroups, its your $$ an not mine..
But, if you want to monitor the system with a radio with a max scan list of 10 talkgroups, its your $$ an not mine..
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Well, let me put it this way... "hypothetically" speaking, does anyone else have a problem monitoring them with radios? Such as it showing the system "Out of Range"? Are the FD Control Channels (http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=TRSDB&sid=234) correct? Again this is strictly theory! NO ONE should be using radios to monitor systems!
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If your showing out of range, hypotheically speaking you should be using a scanner and not a radio.
Apparently you do not know how to properly program a trunking radio. Furthermore, improper programming of a subscriber radio can (and has been shown in the past) wreck havoc with the TRS and its users.
Its only a matter of time before your radio gets inhibited, which it may have already been done by the system.
Apparently you do not know how to properly program a trunking radio. Furthermore, improper programming of a subscriber radio can (and has been shown in the past) wreck havoc with the TRS and its users.
Its only a matter of time before your radio gets inhibited, which it may have already been done by the system.
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PJH said:
Well how can it get inhibited if we're speaking hypothetically? Hmm... And it helps with the right control channels anyway.
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LuiePL said:
LMAO, just sell it to me for 250$, and get a scanner
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Why would I sell an XTS3000 model III for "250$"? You may be smoking crack, but I'm not.
Forgive us questioning you a bit, Luie, but you yourself have provided two very operative quotes here:
1 - "Scanner enthusiasts need not respond" - Then why did you post your query here? This is a scanner enthusiasts' forum on a primarily scanner-oriented website. If you really need this kind of info, why not post your inquiry on the System Manager's Technical Forum, or simply contact the manager of the system that you wish to monitor? After all, it's all hypothetical.
2 - "NO ONE should be using radios to monitor systems!" [your exclamation point] . Yet you have an XTS-3000 that you appear to be experimenting with, have apparently tried and failed to engage DC control channels, and are 'hypothetically' getting an error message (system out of range) on your radio. Perhaps you should be asking how you can ensure that your radio is a completely passive device.
Couple this with the fact that your radio is far more expensive than--and is far more limited in its monitoring capablities than--a scanner, and us 'scanner enthusiasts' start scratching our heads.
It's not that I think you're with Al Quaida or something like that. They would've been far too smart to post an inquiry like yours. But you might want to visit the Virginia Forum and read about what recently happened to some folks in Wytheville, VA who were using much simpler radios to monitor a much simpler system. Even if the authorities handle the case badly and lose it, those folks have brought themselves a world of unwanted attention.
Or, visit the System Managers' Technical Forum. The only current thread is about--inhibiting unauthorized radios!
73/Allen (N4JRI)
1 - "Scanner enthusiasts need not respond" - Then why did you post your query here? This is a scanner enthusiasts' forum on a primarily scanner-oriented website. If you really need this kind of info, why not post your inquiry on the System Manager's Technical Forum, or simply contact the manager of the system that you wish to monitor? After all, it's all hypothetical.
2 - "NO ONE should be using radios to monitor systems!" [your exclamation point] . Yet you have an XTS-3000 that you appear to be experimenting with, have apparently tried and failed to engage DC control channels, and are 'hypothetically' getting an error message (system out of range) on your radio. Perhaps you should be asking how you can ensure that your radio is a completely passive device.
Couple this with the fact that your radio is far more expensive than--and is far more limited in its monitoring capablities than--a scanner, and us 'scanner enthusiasts' start scratching our heads.
It's not that I think you're with Al Quaida or something like that. They would've been far too smart to post an inquiry like yours. But you might want to visit the Virginia Forum and read about what recently happened to some folks in Wytheville, VA who were using much simpler radios to monitor a much simpler system. Even if the authorities handle the case badly and lose it, those folks have brought themselves a world of unwanted attention.
Or, visit the System Managers' Technical Forum. The only current thread is about--inhibiting unauthorized radios!
73/Allen (N4JRI)
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Well, we can all relax, it was a control channel step issue, which would be a problem if you're using a radio, scanner, of have a peice of foil on your head to try and listen to the system.
LOL I thought "EVERYTHING MUST GO!!"???? Gonna start buying stuff for the vic again?jparks29 said:
LuiePL said:
Man, what a low blow............
Funny, but still low :lol:
jparks29
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LuiePL said:
stop trying , while you're still ahead.....seriously......
if you have a legitimate reason to be on their system, the sysadmin will have your radio programmed for you......
you're PROBABLY in possesion of illegal software, how else would you have been able to program the radio and get(generate) the system key??
ya know, DESPITE what people say, I DO have a legitimate business, and I can SELL that radio to a LEGITIMATE user,who doesnt have to ask for connect tones, or other information, on a scanner forum...and risk not only being inhibited,but NUMEROUS charges,from accessing a computer system without permission,to transmitting without a license(because, on a SmartZone system, your radio WILL affiliate,wether you want it to or not),to software piracy......
please watch your attitude..... you're heading down the wrong path....a few "friendly" people here are trying to prevent you from doing so....
LuiePL said:
oh yeah, because an XTS3000 HAS to be "mounted" in a car....
and, those items didnt all come from my car, I'm clearing out my used inventory, preparing to "move the shop"... thanks for your interest though, PM me if you want anything
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Anywho... Is everyone about done with this post? I figured out what I needed to, I'm in no way "affiliating" with the system, so let's get this back on course for scanner users...
jparks29
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LuiePL said:
no offense meant at all, but how do you KNOW you're not affiliating?if you're radio is set to SZ,which DC's system IS, it will AUTOMATICALLY affiliate, without you knowing, without your intervention....
if you have it set to something other than SZ, and a few other settings changed,then you might be OK....
dont find out about systemwatch the hard way..
PhillyPhoto
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Mr Parks, you don't have to affiliate to listen to a smart zone system, and it's wasn't a 5000 I was dealing with, so it doesn't auto-affiliate... Like I said, this post is through
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Listen no.
If programed as SZ, yes, it will.
However, should it recieve a couple of certain commands from the controller, reguardless on how you programmed it the radio will xmit and zapped. Does it happen often? No. Does it happen? Yes.
But, since its basically a single site system, there isn't a need to have it set to any sort of wide area coverage
If programed as SZ, yes, it will.
However, should it recieve a couple of certain commands from the controller, reguardless on how you programmed it the radio will xmit and zapped. Does it happen often? No. Does it happen? Yes.
But, since its basically a single site system, there isn't a need to have it set to any sort of wide area coverage
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first of all DC's system is a smartzone simocast system, so there for the subscriber units are flashed for smartzone but not programmed as smartzone. you are thinking of a true smartzone system such as the state of del system. 2nd it is a digital system and as most does not run systemwatch but runs sitelens.
first of all DC's system is a smartzone simocast system, so there for the subscriber units are flashed for smartzone but not programmed as smartzone. you are thinking of a true smartzone system such as the state of del system. 2nd it is a digital system and as most does not run systemwatch but runs sitelens.
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In terms of two-way radio programming for monitoring (and actual use) the radio does not need to be programmed as wide area coverage (in this case) since it is a simulcast system.
However there will be a couple of SZ specific features that you will lose by doing this, but in operation doesn't really matter to most users.
However there will be a couple of SZ specific features that you will lose by doing this, but in operation doesn't really matter to most users.
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