Control Channel Order.

[2wayfreq]

Can we confirm that if we put the closest area site control channels at the top of the CC List, they will be scanned first? I like that I can drag the CCs in whatever order I want them in. I figure it will "Lock On" quicker. If not, it takes several seconds to find the signal. There is a separate annoying thing that happens. If I add a new CC, it sticks it at the very top of the list. If I drag it down further in the list order and save, It pops it to the top again! Any way to force it to a position on the list that you want?

 

[RaleighGuy]

Can we confirm that if we put the closest area site control channels at the top of the CC List, they will be scanned first? I like that I can drag the CCs in whatever order I want them in. I figure it will "Lock On" quicker. If not, it takes several seconds to find the signal. There is a separate annoying this that happens. If I add a new CC, it sticks it at the very top of the list. If I drag it down further in the list order and save, It pops it to the top again! Any way to force it to a position on the list that you want?

It goes by signal strength, not order in the PPS, for locking on to a site until it drops below the signal strength limit. And, the strongest signal may not be the site you want or are local to. When rescanning starts it picks up from last location.

You are doing yourself a disservice by placing multiple sites in one knob position, you can't control the site you are monitoring this way and may miss localized traffic.

 

[2wayfreq]

It goes by signal strength, not order in the PPS, for locking on to a site until it drops below the signal strength limit. And, the strongest signal may not be the site you want or are local to. When rescanning starts it picks up from last location.

You are doing yourself a disservice by placing multiple sites in one knob position, you can't control the site you are monitoring this way and may miss localized traffic.

Hmm, well I have one Talk Group per position and all I want it to do when it starts up is have the Local Control Channels for this area to be seen first. Outer area CCs from a differnt part of the state to be seen..Last. I don't know how fast it scans through 100 Control channels. By the way can you set the "Hunt Speed"?
One other thing that I wish they would add. In a regular trunking radio, you can have no control channels whatsoever and it will STILL detect a system control channel and afilliate. These will just say "Out of Range".

 

[K9KLC]

It goes by signal strength, not order in the PPS, for locking on to a site until it drops below the signal strength limit. And, the strongest signal may not be the site you want or are local to. When rescanning starts it picks up from last location.

You are doing yourself a disservice by placing multiple sites in one knob position, you can't control the site you are monitoring this way and may miss localized traffic.

This is absolutely correct. In my case I have a couple of knob positions for traveling around but at that the pager locks on to the signal it likes. I use it so I can at least receive something when out and about but often if it's a planned trip and I have time I'll program knob positions accordingly.

Your best bet is the advice above and if you know in advance plan accordingly.

 

[RaleighGuy]

Hmm, well I have one Talk Group per position and all I want it to do when it starts up is have the Local Control Channels for this area to be seen first. Outer area CCs from a differnt part of the state to be seen..Last. I don't know how fast it scans through 100 Control channels. By the way can you set the "Hunt Speed"?

Please remember, this is a voice pager, not a scanner, and though you can use it to scan it doesn't work the same way. It is designed for one site at a time, per knob. And, no you can't set the hunt speed. Program one knob for your local site and one for traveling the state.

In my situation, my local tower is less than two miles away, but if I allow the pager to scan/find the site it always locks onto a site 15 miles away, also when I move from my county to the next it remains on the site in my county because it has really good reception, so I must have the two counties on separate knobs.

 

[2wayfreq]

Please remember, this is a voice pager, not a scanner, and though you can use it to scan it doesn't work the same way. It is designed for one site at a time, per knob. And, no you can't set the hunt speed. Program one knob for your local site and one for traveling the state.

In my situation, my local tower is less than two miles away, but if I allow the pager to scan/find the site it always locks onto a site 15 miles away, also when I move from my county to the next it remains on the site in my county because it has really good reception, so I must have the two counties on separate knobs.

Ok, I powered off and on a few times with my changes. It takes about 3 pr 4 seconds to find the Control Channel. Not bad I guess. Yeah, I don't try to scan with it. Just one Talk Group at a time.

 

[scannerboy02]

One other thing that I wish they would add. In a regular trunking radio, you can have no control channels whatsoever and it will STILL detect a system control channel and afilliate. These will just say "Out of Range".

You can do this by adding a 'Full Spectrum Scan' for the trunking system. You can also set the RFSS and Site ID to FF and it will lock on to any site it finds that match the WACN and System ID.

 

[K9KLC]

One other thing that I wish they would add. In a regular trunking radio, you can have no control channels whatsoever and it will STILL detect a system control channel and afilliate. These will just say "Out of Range".

Not if they're programmed correctly however sometimes what they pick up may not be something you're interested in or wanting to hear. As mentioned above, "Full spectrum scan" if properly done will get it to at least receive something. It may take a bit to lock in but, they'll eventually get something. For traveling within a system, follow the directions above. That worked pretty well for me also on our Illinois StarCom 21 system.

 

[ofd8001]

I'm in an interesting situation. I use a G-5 as a responder for alerting purposes. Our system has sites in Jefferson County where I live and in Bullitt County where I'm a fire department member. Fortunately the "critical to me" talkgroups are carried on both sites.

So for me, it becomes a matter of which site I can receive. Sometimes its one, sometimes the other.

I have programmed both sites. The main control channel for Bullitt is first, second is the main control channel for Jefferson. Then I've programmed the alternate control channels.

When I was first tinkering with the programming, I experienced the order jumbling issue. But because there are only 6 frequencies involved, I just did some deleting and re-entering. Seemed to work fine.