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ecps92

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Not a good assumption

165.2375 $301 can be
DNET-01, DNET-03, DNET-06, DNET-17, DNET-39, DNET-40, DNET-47, DNET-52, DNET-55, DNET-69 and DTAC-01 or DTAC-08

All depends on Repeater or Simplex
and then for the DNET what the input Freq/Tone is.

165.2375 with the 301 NAC is CBP DNET-1 based on the NAC you got and the freq you logged. Did you get a NAC with the 170.550 freq? FBI is generally fully Enc.




$167= Generally FBI
 
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Not a good assumption

165.2375 $301 can be
DNET-01, DNET-03, DNET-06, DNET-17, DNET-39, DNET-40, DNET-47, DNET-52, DNET-55, DNET-69 and DTAC-01 or DTAC-08

All depends on Repeater or Simplex
and then for the DNET what the input Freq/Tone is.


Your right. He didn't say if he picked anything up on 166.4375 and if there is a tone or NAC with it either. I forgot to say that the DOA, NPS, and ICE has also been reported with this NAC.
 
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The DoA Report is actually DHS

And since ICE and BP are part of CBP......... ?/? Your point ?

Your right. He didn't say if he picked anything up on 166.4375 and if there is a tone or NAC with it either. I forgot to say that the DOA, NPS, and ICE has also been reported with this NAC.
 

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165.2375 with the 301 NAC is CBP DNET-1 based on the NAC you got and the freq you logged. Did you get a NAC with the 170.550 freq? FBI is generally fully Enc.




$167= Generally FBI

I'll look at the NAC for 170.550 when I get back in town.

Occasionally I'll catch the FBI on 167.7375.

And yes, they are always Enc unless you get lucky and catch a mismatch.
 

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The DoA Report is actually DHS

And since ICE and BP are part of CBP......... ?/? Your point ?

ICE is not a part of CBP. ICE is a separate agency under the DHS umbrella. Much like the USSS or FEMA.
 
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CBP is part of the Border Patrol.

Border Patrol is part of DHS.

ICE is part of DHS.
 

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CBP is part of the Border Patrol.

Border Patrol is part of DHS.

ICE is part of DHS.

Not quite.

CBP has three law enforcement agencies underneath its umbrella. OBP (Border Patrol), OFO (Field Operations), and OAM (Air and Marine).

ICE has two law enforcement agencies under its umbrella. ERO (Enforcement and Removal Operations), and HSI (Homeland Security Investigations).

Both ICE and CBP fall under DHS. It's a bit confusing. Hopefully this helps.
 
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Not according to the Border Patrol's own website.

Your comment does not help at all in that it contradicts official statements.
 
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Great. Dueling federal websites. Why am I not surprised?

In this case, I'm not even sure which website (Border Patrol vs. DHS) is more authoritative with respect to the structure of the Border Patrol.
 

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Dueling Websites

Great. Dueling federal websites. Why am I not surprised?

In this case, I'm not even sure which website (Border Patrol vs. DHS) is more authoritative with respect to the structure of the Border Patrol.

*Cue banjo music*

Well, in DHS's defense, their site does call CBP one of their "largest and most complex" components.... Maybe even they don't fully understand it.

And the webpage says it was updated in July 2015.
 
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Reading the last few posts here and I am grinning ear to ear...I work amidst this confusion, and the chain-of-command flow chart type thing in my own office was full of surprises for us when it was last revised. No fanfare, just an email reminding us to look at the chart since it was just revised. And what do you know...yes, some of us had been reporting to the wrong supervisor for weeks, people whom we had not seen in a while and thought had transferred elsewhere were reassigned to fill obscure duty slots (but had since left on TDY anyhow), and more interesting things came to light.
 
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Isn't civil service just grand? Boy, I'm glad I retired (again) from the mess.

My favorite table of organization revision happened a few years ago in the place I just left. It had an entire Division (that, at best, should have been a Unit; was really nothing more then a team) contained within a Division. Wow.
 

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165.2375 with the 301 NAC is CBP DNET-1 based on the NAC you got and the freq you logged. Did you get a NAC with the 170.550 freq? FBI is generally fully Enc.




$167= Generally FBI


Here's some commo I caught today:

167.7375 P25 NAC 160 (FBI)
TG:1
RIDs: 3161945, 3161885
ENC, Alg ID= AES
KeyID: 20593

170.550 P25 NAC 293 (FBI)
TG:1
RID- 3161529
ENC

163.625 P25 NAC 100
TG 1
RIDs: 5106652, 703
ENC, AlgID= DES-OFB
KeyID= 174

163.675 P25 NAC 351

167.6375 P25 NAC 160 (FBI)
TG 1
RIDs: 3161885, 3161945
ENC, AlgID= AES
KeyID= 20593

All received in the KDTW area
 
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I've heard they've been conducting a lot of air surveillance recently. Someone had a dongle and some software to decode an aircraft's mode C transponder data. He noticed planes circling areas for long periods of time and they always used the same squawk codes.

If they were training flights they would likely be squawking 1200 (VFR).

These planes were squawking something like 4415 which tells me they likely filed a flight plan. You can't just pick a random transponder code. Of course the planes were based out of a fake FBO.

Squawks 4414 and 4415 are FBI aircraft. The squawks are reserved for federal law enforcement by the FAA.
 

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CP made mention of it last Tuesday.
The Fed Files Blog

Altho CBP has been using the AMO acronym for sometime now for some of their sites, it's now a change to the Group


I haven't been on the forum for a while, so if this has already been posted I apologize.

CBP has changed their Office of Air and Marine to Air and Marine Operations, which they refer to as AMO.

I guess Federal agencies like to make changes just to be changing something.

From the Air and Sea | U.S. Customs and Border Protection
 
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