BCD436HP/BCD536HP: Display talk groups and user ids

runnerr

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Hi!

I wonder how I display the current talkgroup id and user id on a stored DMR channel when receiving a transmission, instead of just displaying the Name of the channel?

It works if I add a frequency without a channel Name in the radio, but I want to be able to do the same for channels that has been addes through sentinel (and sentinel requires channel name, otherwise the channel cant be added)

Thanks!
 

dave3825

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From the scanner,

Press Func then 9(DISP) to toggle 3 Line Display Mode in BCD536HP or Channel Service Type/Unit ID Display in BCD436HP in Scan Hold Mode.

From Sentinel, read scanner first.

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Then write back to scanner.
 

runnerr

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Hi!

Thanks for your answer!

I've really tried everything above, but it still does not work for some reason.

I'm listening to a DMR transmission at the moment on a programmed channel with a channel name called "Repeater". And if i toggle "Unit ID display" using Func + 9, it still just shows the channel name, frequency and color code. But I've added the same channel/freq using quick save department without setting a channel name, and there it shows Net: 0, Site: 0, Talkgroup and User ID just like I want to.

Display mode is also set to Mode 2 using sentinel. Am I missing something?
 

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I've really tried everything above, but it still does not work for some reason.


How is the DMR freq programmed into the scanner? If conventional, I do not believe it will do UID's in that mode. Just DMR One Freq.
 

Whiskey3JMC

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If conventional, I do not believe it will do UID's in that mode. Just DMR One Freq.
In order for UIDs to be displayed on x36HPs in conventional mode the channel name needs to be cleared. Do a channel hold on frequency in question. Press "E" then choose Edit Current Channel > Edit Name. Press "No" button twice to clear the name. Press "E" then press "E" again at "Set Default Name". Press Menu twice more to back out of menus and back into conventional scan. Unfortunately there's no way to do this in conventional mode with a channel name set. Uniden rectified this via the SDSx00s by adding UID as its own display line entry

UID will be displayed here:
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runnerr

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In order for UIDs to be displayed on x36HPs in conventional mode the channel name needs to be cleared. Do a channel hold on frequency in question. Press "E" then choose Edit Current Channel > Edit Name. Press "No" button twice to clear the name. Press "E" then press "E" again at "Set Default Name". Press Menu twice more to back out of menus and back into conventional scan. Unfortunately there's no way to do this in conventional mode with a channel name set. Uniden rectified this via the SDSx00s by adding UID as its own display line entry

UID will be displayed here:
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This is the answer. A little quirky, but works.

I wonder though why it isn't allowed to leave a channel name empty in Sentinel...
 

runnerr

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I actually solved it using Sentinel now!

If you set the channel name to this exact string format, it will display Talk group, User ID etc on the radio.

If your DMR frequency is for i.e 434.6000 MHz, then you should name your channel " 434.6000MHz" without the quotation marks. Notice that you need to include a blank space before the frequency, and there should be exact 4 decimals of the frequency and no whitespace between the numbers and "MHz".

If your frequency is more specific than 4 decimals, it should be in the following format:

434.03125 ---> " 434.0312MHz" (without quotation marks)
 

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I wonder though why it isn't allowed to leave a channel name empty in Sentinel...
The program code in the firmware have been written in a certain way and they do not want to change it as it could make other things stop working.

As the frequency are always presented at the bottom of the display they compare that to the text for the channel and if those are identical then that text field can instead be used to show net and system id as well as TG and user id. When that comparison are made between the frequency and a blank text for the channel they will not be equal and that would instead force the blank text to be displayed and show no info at all. They force you to always have a channel text, either the default or a used edited one, both in Sentinel and in the scanners own edit function, and they haven't added one line of code to check if the channel text are all blanks, so they must have a good reason for this.

It's been like this for other functions as well, that if you for instance change the default text for search ranges then some info that are decoded are not displayed, as the edited name for the search range have been chosen in the firmware to have higher priority to the user.

For scanners that have a larger display they try and disable this functionality as it is still space left in the display to present different info simultaneously, but sometimes old code can still linger around and show up as a bug.

/Ubbe
 
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