DSDPlus DMR CapMax Alias

[Muxlow]

Been monitoring a new DMR Capacity Max system with DSD+FL and have had no issues decoding talker alias. Been working great for the past few months
Seem in the last few weeks its not doing it for a couple new talkgroups. DSD-FME is decoding the alias but FL is not
Doubt anyone els around has a new Cap Max system that has new talkgroups using talker alias but figured id toss it out there to see what could be causing that?
Have 3 different sites im monitoring on 3 different computers and all same result other then FME is showing talker alias AND GPS locations another thing FL dont seem to be showing for some reason

Prairie Communications - Turbo Connect Trunking System, Multiple Locations, Ontario

Prairie Communications - Turbo Connect Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

 

[mtindor]

Been monitoring a new DMR Capacity Max system with DSD+FL and have had no issues decoding talker alias. Been working great for the past few months
Seem in the last few weeks its not doing it for a couple new talkgroups. DSD-FME is decoding the alias but FL is not
Doubt anyone els around has a new Cap Max system that has new talkgroups using talker alias but figured id toss it out there to see what could be causing that?
Have 3 different sites im monitoring on 3 different computers and all same result other then FME is showing talker alias AND GPS locations another thing FL dont seem to be showing for some reason

Prairie Communications - Turbo Connect Trunking System, Multiple Locations, Ontario

Prairie Communications - Turbo Connect Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

Are you continuing to voice-follow? Remember, if you aren't voice following in DSDPlus and instead are just parked on the CC, it's not going to decode any aliases. Have to voice call. If the calls are ENC, make sure that encrypted voice following is on.

And, perhaps record a raw audio wav file so that we can see if it happens on our copies. Of course, you'd have to make sure it's voice following and that the raw audio is capturing voice activity when those aliases would be seen.

 

[Muxlow]

Should of mentioned yeah voice follow is on. Been using DSD+FL since its release and has been working fine up until now with these new groups not showing alias

Its doing this on 3 different computers at 3 different locations on the same system so dont think its my setup. Just happen to look at my DSD FME log and noticed it was catching all the alias and locations and DSD+FL is missing them. Have 1 setup with 2 dongles. 1 running FME other +FL

Ill try to get a recording as these groups seem very chatty and are non enc. Most of the groups have been enc and no problems catching the alias . Somethings gone a wacky #2026 i guess as the kids say

 

[Muxlow]

Gave all the sites a reboot and seems locations are working now for whatever reason but not talker alias still on the 2 new talkgroups
2 of the sites dont have traffic from these 2 talkgroups very much as they are out of their site roam range but have seen a couple transmissions on 2 of the sites

Site 1 seems to carry most of their transmissions and locations working off that one

 

[dave3825]

Remember, if you aren't voice following in DSDPlus and instead are just parked on the CC, it's not going to decode any aliases. Have to voice call.

Is that specific to Cap Max?

 

[mtindor]

Is that specific to Cap Max

It's the case for P25, DMR and NXDN as a general rule. I can't remember if the AEP/DUKE NC-SC-FL are like that as well, or if their elias info is somehow sent over the CC. Just don't remember. But as a general rule this does apply to all three.

 

[dave3825]

Just don't remember.

Lol, me neither. But I can confirm that on a brand new install of public version, parked (Passive Digital) on P25 Motorola cc decodes aliases nicely. And the same on a P25 Harris system. Its also decoding aliases from radios on enc tg's with encrypted voice following set to no following.

 

[mtindor]

Lol, me neither. But I can confirm that on a brand new install of public version, parked (Passive Digital) on P25 Motorola cc decodes aliases nicely. And the same on a P25 Harris system. Its also decoding aliases from radios on enc tg's with encrypted voice following set to no following.

I would think it’s less likely decoding from the cc and more likely pulling the information from the server to see if the alias is there. Likely in CC mode you are just seeing what others have already sent up to the server and made available.

 

[dave3825]

I would think it’s less likely decoding from the cc and more likely pulling the information from the server to see if the alias is there.

Indeed. OP, whos computer It was being setting up on said there was no internet on the PC.

 

[GTR8000]

Lol, me neither. But I can confirm that on a brand new install of public version, parked (Passive Digital) on P25 Motorola cc decodes aliases nicely. And the same on a P25 Harris system. Its also decoding aliases from radios on enc tg's with encrypted voice following set to no following.

Motorola ASTRO 25 systems encode the OTA aliases over the traffic channels, not the control channel.

 

[mtindor]

I would think it’s less likely decoding from the cc and more likely pulling the information from the server to see if the alias is there. Likely in CC mode you are just seeing what others have already sent up to the server and made available.

Indeed. OP, whos computer It was setting it on said there was no internet on the PC.

All I can say is, I don’t believe it. You gotta be voice following to decode new aliases otherwise they’re coming from a dot radio’s file or they’re coming from the Internet.

 

[Forts]

I could be completely out in left field here, but I thought I read somewhere that if 'Acquire talker aliases' is selected, it will attempt to grab them from traffic channels automatically, regardless of your voice following setting. I know Unitrunker doesn't grab aliases unless you have a voice VFO assigned.

 

[gary123]

DSD grabs the OTA from the server if the RID is in the radios file AND there is a matching alias on the server. The actual OTA is only sent on the voice channel so if you have voice following it will capture the OTA data but if you do not it wont.