Doctors office using FRS

[Jimru]

Before passing it on to the media, I think a heads up to the interested parties first, would be the way to go.
If they don't change their ways quickly, then I would take it to either the media or a local medical group that oversees HIIPA compliance.
But, most likely the are totally unaware of what they are doing.

 

[JoeyC]

I don't know. I find it difficult to believe the necessity of any doctors office in "airing" any of that information on a regular basis since there is always a paper or electronic chart readily available that contains all of that information.

Based on the advertisement to listen to FRS radio in each post the OP makes I'm not buying it.

 

[W9NES]

Joey C, Sorry but I AM HEARING THIS MON-FRI on a regular basis. Being that I have the doctors name and now the phone number after doing some detective work to track him down. I will call the Indiana Department of Health first and advise them of this and let them handle this. I would LISTEN around frist in your area and see what you hear Joey C.

 

[Jimru]

I don't know. I find it difficult to believe the necessity of any doctors office in "airing" any of that information on a regular basis since there is always a paper or electronic chart readily available that contains all of that information.

Based on the advertisement to listen to FRS radio in each post the OP makes I'm not buying it.

Hmmm, perhaps we smell a troll, do we?

 

[gunmasternd]

who cares frs radios put out like what 1/4 watt. pretty much you have to be within a block to hear it. I doubt theres anything worth getting your panties wet for.

 

[mancow]

How about picking up the phone and kindly giving them the heads up first before making the guys life hell!

Good gawd...

 

[MTS2000des]

who cares frs radios put out like what 1/4 watt. pretty much you have to be within a block to hear it. I doubt theres anything worth getting your panties wet for.

Because maybe someone doesn't want their personal information broadcast over a radio. What's your social security number, full name, date of birth, and medical history, why not post it here since privacy doesn't seem to be a concern for you?

and FRS radios can transmit up 500mw (1/2 a watt), which certainly can go more than a block. I've talked UHF simplex with 1/2 watt portable to portable for 5 miles. All depends on how high up you are, if there is no terrain or interference. 1/2 a watt can go quite a distance in some places.

 

[mancow]

Right. So, if made aware they would likely stop. If not then alert the masses. Step one, step two... etc... instead of straight to panic mode.

 

[SigIntel8600]

Joey C, Sorry but I AM HEARING THIS MON-FRI on a regular basis. Being that I have the doctors name and now the phone number after doing some detective work to track him down. I will call the Indiana Department of Health first and advise them of this and let them handle this. I would LISTEN around frist in your area and see what you hear Joey C.

1. Nobody likes a rat

2. Read the United States Code 47 704 section 705 (47USC704) which you will be violating.

 

[gewecke]

Joey C, Sorry but I AM HEARING THIS MON-FRI on a regular basis. Being that I have the doctors name and now the phone number after doing some detective work to track him down. I will call the Indiana Department of Health first and advise them of this and let them handle this. I would LISTEN around frist in your area and see what you hear Joey C.

Why not simply call the Dr. and inform him that he can be heard?? WHY do you have to call DPH? You're making it more of a issue than it is tim. :wink:

73,
n9zas

 

[gewecke]

who cares frs radios put out like what 1/4 watt. pretty much you have to be within a block to hear it. I doubt theres anything worth getting your panties wet for.

Uh, no you can hear them a lot farther than that, especially if you're listening with a tuned uhf antenna! :wink:

73,
n9zas

 

[glideslope]

2. Read the United States Code 47 704 section 705 (47USC704) which you will be violating.

Try again on this one please. If you're going to quote laws please organize it as Title #, Chapter #, Section #

USC 47 704 section 705 does not make sense to me. I believe you're trying to quote Title 47 of the USC, Chapter 5, Section 605, which is talking about the unauthorized publication or use of communication. I can understand how you might read this as "You're not allowed to publish or repeat anything said on radio." but, don't forget to read it all...

"This section shall NOT apply to the receiving, divulging, publishing, or utilizing the contents of any radio communication which is transmitted by any station for the use of the general public, which relates to ships, aircraft, vehicles, or persons in distress, or which is transmitted by an amateur radio station operator or by a citizens band radio operator. "

I tried to get to the section you've posted in this thread but, Chapter 5 deals with radio communications and within Chapter 5 there is no section 705.

Link me to what you're trying to show this individual.

 

[MTS2000des]

1. Nobody likes a rat

2. Read the United States Code 47 704 section 705 (47USC704) which you will be violating.

Try again. See here:
eCFR — Code of Federal Regulations

§ 95.191 (FRS Rule 1) Eligibility and responsibility.

(a) Unless you are a representative of a foreign government, you are authorized by this rule to operate an FCC certified FRS unit in accordance with the rules in this subpart. No license will be issued.
(b) You are responsible for all communications that you make with the FRS unit. You must share each channel with other users. No channel is available for the private or exclusive use of any user.

FRS is a license by rule service, one of which (subpart B of 95.191) says that "No channel is private or exclusive use of any users"

Therefore clearly by the FCC's own rules, FRS transmissions are in the public domain, as any part 95 service transmissions are.

 

[JoeyC]

Hmmm, perhaps we smell a troll, do we?

Yep, and its working.

You're making it more of a issue than it is tim. :wink:

As usual.

 

[gewecke]

Yep, and its working.


As usual.

No I wouldn't say tim's a troll, just maybe overly concerned.

73,
n9zas

 

[Spankymedic7]

HIPAA does not cover two-way radio. However, this doctor's office is not using technology very wisely.

Do you plan to inform the office in question of this problem?

Hi Dave,

Actually, HIPAA doesn't discriminate...if patient info is disseminated by any means, it's a violation. It can be written, electronic (email), telephonic, and radio.

This was a huge point of contention years ago. Dispatch desperately wanted to convey to us crews in the field that a particular patient had XYZ communicable disease...but couldn't. The dispatchers got pretty creative, even tried coming up with "codes" that would be symbolic for certain communicable diseases. In the end, they lost...HIPAA was cited as the reason.

I absolutely agree; however, that the doc's office is foolishly using technology...to his/her disadvantage. I hope someone educates this practice, obviously it's attracting an audience.

Happy Holidays!

 

[Spankymedic7]

Why not simply call the Dr. and inform him that he can be heard?? WHY do you have to call DPH? You're making it more of a issue than it is tim. :wink:

73,
n9zas

Well said.

 

[bobmich52]

Well said.

Absolutley Agree

Troll?

Yes, I Beleive W9NES Has Been Given A Infraction Recently By The RR Staff, So Just Maybe He Will Be Banned For The Greater Good This Time Around??

Merry Xmas To All

 

[Confuzzled]

1. Nobody likes a rat

Chicago PD just got whacked big time in Federal court for their Code of Silence. Keeping it quiet when you know something's wrong is not the way to be.

Why not simply call the Dr. and inform him that he can be heard?? WHY do you have to call DPH? You're making it more of a issue than it is

This is the kind of thing that needs to be taken to the medical board or health department. This is how people involved in identity theft and medical fraud get their information. It's along the lines of wi-fi sniffers and ATM skimmers and should be dealt with in a heavy-handed manner.

 

[gewecke]

Chicago PD just got whacked big time in Federal court for their Code of Silence. Keeping it quiet when you know something's wrong is not the way to be.



This is the kind of thing that needs to be taken to the medical board or health department. This is how people involved in identity theft and medical fraud get their information. It's along the lines of wi-fi sniffers and ATM skimmers and should be dealt with in a heavy-handed manner.

While I see and to some degree, agree (did I really say that?) Are we supposed to expect physicians and Rn's and their staff to be communication consultants too? I'd be impressed if any of them knew the difference between GMRS, FRS or LTR technology. It's possible they consider the frs radios in the same light as they do with their smartphones, simply assuming they are secure in the way they perform.
But yes ... anyone parked outside with a radio, a recorder has means to note pertinent info mentioned on the air.

73,
n9zas