Dsd plus tier 3?? Troubleshooting

[mtindor]

No, Not in the freq file yet i was just watching the wave spectrum and the cc window box where the talk group was coming across. Maybe that the wrong way to determine them. I'm still a novice at this hahahah

If it were me (and this is just me)

1. I would park the CC copy on the L4-7 control channel
2. I would tune the FMP24-VC to a freq that you want to check and see if its part of that site

Then I'd watch the CC DSDPlus for TG 181 activity and then watch the VC DSDplus side to see if there is audio when TG 181 is active on the CC side and I would note what it says at the bottom of the VC DSDPlus screen.

I would do that for each and every frequency that you presume could be part of that site as a voice frequency

It would take a while, but I think that is the better way to do it.

Also, just keep in mind that just because there are two LSN pairs and "CC" is listed separate in the channel activity window, it doesn't mean that there are actually three frequencies. It could mean that. But it could also mean that there hasn't been voice activity seen on the CC, and that's the only way DSDPlus would determine the LSNs for the CC. You hit it lucky on L4-23 because obviously at some point there was voice traffic on the CC that allowed DSDPlus to determine the LSNs for the CC.

Remember, each freq has two timeslots. Although it is most common for T3 CCs to never have voice traffic (both slots used for data), it is possible for a T3 CC to have data on one LSN (slot) while having voice on the other. If there is never voice copied on the L4-7 control channel, you'll never really know what it's LSNs are.

 

[mtindor]

@nick223 I also made _another_ mistake when I listed all of what you should submit . I listed:

LSN 397 855.9875
LSN 398 855.9875

And that _should_ have been:

LSN 397 855.9375
LSN 398 855.9375

So you might want to submit that as an update. Feel free to add in the submissoin that it was Tindor's fault lol

m

 

[nick223]

@nick223 I also made _another_ mistake when I listed all of what you should submit . I listed:

LSN 397 855.9875
LSN 398 855.9875

And that _should_ have been:

LSN 397 855.9375
LSN 398 855.9375

So you might want to submit that as an update. Feel free to add in the submissoin that it was Tindor's fault lol

m

haha okay i re submitted the information; starcom21 is adding it

 

[nick223]

when i start SDR trunk up with the sheridan site L4-23 the event screen says

Teir III Neighbore Sites
Neighbor: Network 4 Site 20 Large LCN:0 ChanID:1
Neighbor: Network 4 Site 7 Large LCN: 356 ChanID:713


Teir III Neighbors on dsdplus from L4-7 Ottawa Site are
L4-7 neighbor: Site L4-11; CC=447
L4-7 neightbor: Site L4-20; CC=1
L4-7 neightbor: Site L4-17; CC=755
L4-7 neightbor: Site L4-12; CC=591
L4-7 neightbor: Site L4-23; CC=311 854.8625

Teir III Neighbors on dsdplus from L4-23 Sheridan Site are

L4-23 neighbor: Site L4-20; CC=1
L4-23 neighbor: Site L4-7; CC=713 Ottawa

 

[mtindor]

SDRTRUNK
Neighbor: Network 4 Site 7 Large LCN: 356 ChanID:713
- this says site 7's current active control channel is LCN 356 (LSN 713/714 for DSDPlus)

DSDPLUS
L4-23 neighbor: Site L4-7; CC=713 Ottawa
- this says the same thing. DSDPlus references LSN. So it's saying Site 7's current active CC is LSN 713 (and LSNs are in pairs - 713/714)

So now you know for Site 7 which you are still trying to figure out, the current active control channel is assigned LSN 713 in your DSDPlus frequencies file


For SIte L4-20; CC=1
- this will either mean that L4-20 isn't online yet but Site L4-23 knows it will be a neighbor
- or it means that there is currently no network connectivity between Site L4-23 and site L4-20

 

[mtindor]

And since you previously posted:

TIIInonStd CC 859.88750 Site L4-7 DCC 7
ch 367
ch 368
ch 713 859.8875
ch 714 859.8875
ch 793
ch 794

You know that the CC LSN (which was previously unknown) for site 7 is 713/714

That means Site 7 has at least three channels, the control channel (713/714), and then 367/368 and 793/794

 

[nick223]

for $hits and giggles i put the freq 860.8875 in the freq file since i always seen the wave length go up and down when there was audio transmitting and i received and heard audio transmissions. Not sure if right but it worked.

TIIInonStd,L4,7,713,859.8875,0,0
TIIInonStd,L4,7,794,860.8875,0,0

 

[mtindor]

for $hits and giggles i put the freq 860.8875 in the freq file since i always seen the wave length go up and down when there was audio transmitting and i received and heard audio transmissions. Not sure if right but it worked.

TIIInonStd,L4,7,713,859.8875,0,0
TIIInonStd,L4,7,794,860.8875,0,0

Good deal. Only one more freq to figure out. Did you manually label the radios? Or do they have talker aliases available on that system? I"m referring to "Sheriff Dispatch" and "Paul19".

Looks good!

 

[nick223]

Good deal. Only one more freq to figure out. Did you manually label the radios? Or do they have talker aliases available on that system? I"m referring to "Sheriff Dispatch" and "Paul19".

Looks good!

Manually labeled them inside the groups file