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EF Johnson All Band Portable, VP8000 Announced

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Without getting into too many details, I will say that Viking has fielded beta test DMR firmware/ Armada CPS for the VP8000 and the results so far are exceptional! We have begun testing this functionality alongside our P25 trunking items and while it has some fine tuning in the Armada CPS still needed, it's certainly a game changer and Motorola better pay attention! With P25 and DMR in a single radio (a radio that isn't crippled by KPG-D1N crappy software) and the fact that the Vault can manage feature entitlement licenses from radios to be shared/transferred and even recovered in the case of a deceased radio and reused to deploy toward replacement radios is huge for the public-safety market. While the Vault2 has some growing pains, once those issues are fixed, DMR and their Broadband data function is fully operational; there's no need to hang on to the APX 8000's any longer and the APX Next is just a waste of taxpayer dollars! Stay tuned for more DMR results, the audio is the best I've ever heard in DMR, hard to tell the difference between it and P25 audio in this radio, very robust and clear...
 

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Yes, Broadband connectivity is coming to the VP8000 via built in WiFi and VPN interface to phone home, not LTE per say that I know of yet but it looks to take advantage of existing Broadband infrastructure, still reading through the docs to set up for testing…
 

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Yes, Broadband connectivity is coming to the VP8000 via built in WiFi and VPN interface to phone home, not LTE per say that I know of yet but it looks to take advantage of existing Broadband infrastructure, still reading through the docs to set up for testing…

OK, thanks. WiFi is good, but I still need LTE, so onward and upward with the Harris.
 

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DMR is currently being beta tested. They expect it to release in July. You need to have P25 to get DMR. this is my understanding.
 

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... You need to have P25 to get DMR. this is my understanding.
It might not matter for now, since the dealer demos have been fully loaded, but that wouldn't make a lot of sense, marketing-wise. On the NX-5K, the P25p2 option is about 8x the price of the DMR option.
 

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On a quick side note. I have a cable, and Armada won't read the radio. 1.36.20 in standalone mode it says error cant read codeplug.
 

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On a quick side note. I have a cable, and Armada won't read the radio. 1.36.20 in standalone mode it says error cant read codeplug.
Figured it out. Armada and the radio version has to match to be read/programmed.
 

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So I may have missed it, but I don't think I've seen anyone comment yet on the VP8000 scanning a 800 TRS and VHF conventional channels at sametime - is the 8000 logging off the TRS while scanning VHF?
The VP900 did this (actually caught it while working with the then system tech programing the 1st VP900 on the system, I just happened to look at Gensis screens and saw it happening )as well as at least the early APX (Im aware of APX demos being sent back because of this).
I have not had time to sit and play with mine yet. Was told that it "should" not log off TRS while scanning VHF.

Anybody played with this yet?
 

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So I may have missed it, but I don't think I've seen anyone comment yet on the VP8000 scanning a 800 TRS and VHF conventional channels at sametime - is the 8000 logging off the TRS while scanning VHF?
The VP900 did this (actually caught it while working with the then system tech programing the 1st VP900 on the system, I just happened to look at Gensis screens and saw it happening )as well as at least the early APX (Im aware of APX demos being sent back because of this).
I have not had time to sit and play with mine yet. Was told that it "should" not log off TRS while scanning VHF.

Anybody played with this yet?
Talking with EFJI, they told me, the radio does not act like the NX-5000 multi-deck, basically mono-band, even though it's multi-banded.
Meaning, if it is in a trunking zone, thats where it is at, however, a dual freq Trunk System (Alaska, Missouri, other VHF or UHF, 700/800 systems) the radio will trunk between the 700/800 or VHF, UHF sites based on the Control Channel Hunt Table.

I can't speak other than this, my radio is on it's way. Maybe others can help answer this in the meantime.
 

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So I may have missed it, but I don't think I've seen anyone comment yet on the VP8000 scanning a 800 TRS and VHF conventional channels at sametime - is the 8000 logging off the TRS while scanning VHF?
The VP900 did this (actually caught it while working with the then system tech programing the 1st VP900 on the system, I just happened to look at Gensis screens and saw it happening )as well as at least the early APX (Im aware of APX demos being sent back because of this).
I have not had time to sit and play with mine yet. Was told that it "should" not log off TRS while scanning VHF.

Anybody played with this yet?
Just so I'm clear on what you're observing...when scanning with a mixed type scan list (trunking + conventional), the radio is actually de-registering from the trunked system when it goes to a conventional channel, then re-registering when it gets back to a control channel, and continues this cycle every few seconds? Yikes, no bueno, that's a ton of wasted battery run time, not to mention wasted inbound signaling bandwidth.

Or perhaps you meant the radio simply de-registers one time, and is then not considered active at that particular site affiliated with any particular talkgroup? That's equally as lousy in some instances.
 

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as far as the VP900 , yes you are clear on the register - deregister....
that was proven by watching Gensis by accident...and to add a bit more we were scanning 3 800 TG and 3 vhf conventional channels at that time.
And apparently at that time the APX was doing the same.
 

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I see, so you're asking about the VP8000's behavior based solely on past history. I would expect that if this were an issue with the newer Viking portables, the VP6000 would have the same problem.

I can test with a VP8000 maybe this weekend, unless someone beats me to it.
 
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