Encryption - secure communication between different manufacturers

[mmckenna]

Except its already in the radios... so there is no 'cost' to make anything more expensive.

Not always. Some radios do have the ability built in. Some radios need an add on module.
I run a lot of Kenwood radios at work. Some of them require an add on Secure Cryptographic Module to do AES256.
And I've got some Harris gear, and that's an added feature, but the hardware is already in the radio.

Figure in export controls, so giving it away with all radios creates some challenges.

And then there's key management software/key loaders, etc.

 

[MTS2000des]

So... pay extra... for an open standard... to have secure communication... which is benificial for most business communications.

We do. We also don't pay for pizza and beer and expect steak and ale.

 

[MTS2000des]

Maybe the red flag is that many radio shops are insecure about their place in communication moving forward... especially as so many other forms of mobile communication are taking their marketshare. I do believe there is a place for these shops and professionals... butI also think they should be leading a push for things like AES256 (in the US at least) and standards between manufacturers... especially as more and more manufacturers are closing down.

AES on LMR adds cost. Many modern day radio buyers are turning to consumer platforms like Chinazon to buy cheap garbage but want real performance. One only has to look at this very forum to see "professional" businesses trying to cobble together repeaters from junk off Alibaba and Chinazon, combined with the lowest common denominator CCR and expect APX8500 (shown above) performance and comsec.

The LMR shops have no problem sending qualified people in to cleanup the feces pieces scattered about and charging appropriately for it.

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

Thank you for the suggestion. Unfortunately the client does not want to be locked into anyone specific... including having to deal with a specific local dealer... (and as I mentioned, I am not trying to be a dealer myself).

If they sold them directly or on amazon... I would happily evaluate them.

Again... I do appreciate you suggesting them

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Maybe your client needs to be educated?

 

[rescuecomm]

His client's employees are doing things or training for things that will make main stream radio guys crap their pants or get ***** slapped for talking too loud. That's why he can't be too specific about details.

Just reading between the lines.

 

[ssilicon]

A lot of secure locations don't allow people to have cell phones within them. We have a many Government Agencies that you can't bring in any electronics or cell phones that I deliver to in Maryland, Northern Virginia and DC. The staff members have to use agencies radios or landline phones to communicate.

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If it is such a sensitive area that they don't allow cell phones, I would think they would also be very particular about what radios were in use. Seems like the wrong tree here.

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

If it is such a sensitive area that they don't allow cell phones, I would think they would also be very particular about what radios were in use. Seems like the wrong tree here.

Indeed they are not going to allow a vendor to pass the reception area with an unapproved radio, especially one from China. I think the OP is dreaming and we are feeding his dream.

 

[N4DES]

We do. We also don't pay for pizza and beer and expect steak and ale.

Same... No issues having it as a standard requirement in our last two radio contracts alongside OFB.