Essex County Prosecutor's Office probes Verona PBA complaint about "outdated radios"

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One really needs to know the entire history here before making judgment. But by reading the article it sounds as if the town made the "IT" department responsible for the management and maintenance of their radio communications, A phenomenon that politicians have fallen prey to. They assume since a wire is involved its something the IT guy can do. After researching the names of the IT guys mentioned in the article with the QRZ database I could not find either to have at least a Amateur Radio license. One also has to keep in mind the police officers are notorious for blaming everything on everyone else, I have had many come into the shop to have their radios checked out because it didn't work only to have the internal affairs department visit to ask what was wrong with the radio, Officer was just covering his tracks and creating an excuse. It could be that these techs have requested funding for new and required test equipment to troubleshoot problems and were turned down by the politicians, I know of several BIG agency's that refuse to provide new T-1 test sets to check their own T-1's. I hope these techs have memorialized their requests on their official E-mail or procurement systems if this turns out to be the case. In government work one quickly learns that an e-mail, printed out and kept in your personal file cabinet at home could be your best friend. Managers and politicians hate it when there is evidence that they were clearly made aware of a problem. All the police chief needs to do in this case is to go to the civil service website and look for titles such as "Communications System Technician 1, 2 and 3 and tell the Town that he needs one of each, Place in the want add "must have GROL, Amateur radio license and X number of years in the RADIO repair industry and part of his problem will be solved.
 

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on another rant related to this is, What exactly is an outdated radio. I use my R390a that was built back in the 60's to monitor many various radio communications, WABC comes in even better on it than on the radio in my 2014 truck. Not knowing Verona's exact radio set up I would have to guess by what they are calling outdated radios are specific brand radios that were designed to work on a specific brand "system" in which the manufactor of the "system" only supports that product for a specific limited timeframe. A conventional radio set NEVER needs to be upgraded to keep working, An old Mocom 70 on 155.73 will work the same as the latest APX radio on 155.73 (narrowbanding is an entirely different rant and scam) Taking a quick look at Verona on google earth its hard to understand why there is a radio problem at all, It appears to be a extremely tiny town, A vhf low band or high band repeater located on a tower on a high elevation in town looks like it would give then good coverage within the town if not a 10-15 mile radius. I think they must have locked themselves into a "system" rather than a radio set up better suited to a tiny town, 2 police frequency's, 2 fire freqs, and local govt freq. for general comms. Many years ago radio requirements were driven by the physics of RF propagation, State police required large coverage footprints with minimum infrastructure and the VHF low band was was utilized and worked best for this, Smaller counties would also utilize low band and high band, and cities the UHF was adequate. Today communications are driven by corporate greed and government collusion, The industry "creates" what they call a standard such as P-25, VSLEP, Type-1, 2 TDMA, FDMA and collude with the agency responsible for radio communications to change rules that force states, counties, towns and businesses to replace perfectly good functioning radio sets with the new communications gear.
 

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There is much more to this story than "outdated" radios. Verona police are using M/A Com MRK 2 radios that were issued when the EDACS narrow system went live in 1999-2000. The system has numerous dead spots, especially inside some multi story buildings, and other coverage issues. Battery life on these radios is also a major problem. The batteries they use are nickel cadmium, and they do not last very long at all. Many times I have heard an officer key up and hear the low battery beep, and this happens a lot . Since it is EDACS, they are locked into using only proprietary radios. Part of the problem is that the system administrator, who is also the IT department head, can be very un responsive, and gives the police only what he wants them to have, and not what they actually need. This has been going on for a long time, and finally the PBA has taken some action. Why a town the size of Verona, only two square miles, needs its own trunked radio system is another issue entirely. Hopefully, some good changes for Verona police will be forthcoming.


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I understand coverage was much better when the police were using a T-Band frequency and the transmitter was at a water tank that is higher in elevation than the self supporting tower currently being used for the trunked radio system. Is this true?
 

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Yes coverage was better with the old repeater, which for some crazy reason is still in use simulcasting the PD dispatch talk group. The trunked system was put in place to get the other town services, which were all on Vhf low band , to a better system. There are a lot of other reasons for this whole mess. Some include the IT manager logging into an evidence computer and viewing a video related to a criminal case. The town manager and the IT manager are "buddies" , and this has caused him to be a real a*****e. It was reported that the town manager actually threatened the PBA president when the PBA was going to sue the town. Should be interesting to see what develops.
 

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I'm being told Verona PBA is documenting everything so they can push a switch to the NJ ICS 700 TRS. This would put them with Belleville and Montclair for PD users in Essex County
 
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Yes I have heard the same thing. That would be a good thing for VPD to do.


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Don't prosecutors investigate possible crimes? Wouldn't bad decision making be outside of their scope of duties?
 

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The town IT department used to handle all technology needs within the police department, which led to all sorts of problems. The PBA retained an attorney and threatened to sue the town, unless changes were made. An agreement was worked out, and then the IT manager stopped cooperating. The police must have called the prosecutor's office to force the town to comply. There may be some questionable activities that took place as well.


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I think there is a lot more to this story. Most of the time, the town's politicians are behind these IT decisions (because of the money involved) and not the IT department themselves.
 

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The range of Verona's current TRS is horrible. I live less than 2 miles from the Verona border and I can barely pick it up. I have never heard anything from the simulcast PD frequency from my location.
 

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I'm also a couple of miles away, in West Caldwell, and I've never heard them clearly unless I'm listening on my 996XT on Bloomfield Avenue within the town limits--and even then not very well. Audio is very thin and light and their RF signals are weak. The T-band simulcast isn't much better, but at least I can keep Verona's TRS locked out and still hear if anything interesting comes across on my conventional radios.

I keep hearing rumors about a West Essex dispatch being established in Fairfield, encompassing the Cadlwells, Fairfield, Verona, Essex Fells and Cedar Grove, but it's never anything more than talk. I frankly wish Essex would do what Morris County did. One good county-wide P25 system for public safety that any department can utilize. To me it's insane that little towns just a couple of miles from each other have completely non-interoperable systems: Verona: Edacs-N, Caldwell/W. Caldwell VHF Hi conventional, North Caldwell/Essex Fells: UHF-T, Fairfield: NJICS Phase 1.

I feel for the Verona police officers and citizens who have to rely on this mess, and I thank my lucky stars to be in a town that has good, clear and loud conventional hi-band radios--and a police chief who adores it.
 

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I keep hearing rumors about a West Essex dispatch being established in Fairfield, encompassing the Cadlwells, Fairfield, Verona, Essex Fells and Cedar Grove, but it's never anything more than talk. I frankly wish Essex would do what Morris County did. One good county-wide P25 system for public safety that any department can utilize. To me it's insane that little towns just a couple of miles from each other have completely non-interoperable systems: Verona: Edacs-N, Caldwell/W. Caldwell VHF Hi conventional, North Caldwell/Essex Fells: UHF-T, Fairfield: NJICS Phase 1.

I feel for the Verona police officers and citizens who have to rely on this mess, and I thank my lucky stars to be in a town that has good, clear and loud conventional hi-band radios--and a police chief who adores it.

I think it is more likely that some of these towns would join the NJICS rather than creating a new Essex County system. The towns in eastern Essex County are also completely non-interoperable. West Orange is on 800MHz EDACS, East Orange is on a Moto system, Orange is conventional, and Newark is partly on NJICS and partly on conventional. The only common denominator is the Essex County mutual aid fire channel.
 

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Yes, ICS would be most likely, but what they're talking about is a unified dispatch center and that has a strong appeal to me. The border between Fairfield and West Caldwell runs right through my property line so I like the idea of dispatchers having a broader view of vehicles/apparatus.
 

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It has nothing to do with what system they use it has to do with sharing some costs. It works in many places a few here in Bergen but nationally it works well. Cooperation among the kingdoms with their lords is always an issue in TURF land New Jersey


I think it is more likely that some of these towns would join the NJICS rather than creating a new Essex County system. The towns in eastern Essex County are also completely non-interoperable. West Orange is on 800MHz EDACS, East Orange is on a Moto system, Orange is conventional, and Newark is partly on NJICS and partly on conventional. The only common denominator is the Essex County mutual aid fire channel.
 

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The plan for Verona was to upgrade to P25 phase 2 sometime down the road. The present administrator of the EDACS, who is also the man under investigation, wanted to push this new system to the other West Essex towns, and build a quasi regional system, which he of course would be in charge of. I really don't see this happening now, with more and more towns going on NJICS. From what I've heard, VPD is looking to join the state system, but anything is possible.


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Let me guess the now defunct Warner Communications, sold Verona this EDACs mess. And I believe they were also responsible for that fiasco P25 Trunk System in Montclair too. Pinnacle Wireless bought out Warner if I am not mistaken.
 
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