Scanner Tales: Dayton Hamvention

N9JIG

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Well, another Dayton Hamvention is gone and done. I have been to around 25 Hamventions or so over the last 40 years, dating back to the old Hara Arena in the 1980’s. Of course, I concentrate on scanners and accessories but have also acquired various ham and GMRS gear. Over the last 20 years I have been to most Hamventions as a rep for Scanner Master, working the booth selling radios and answering questions.

Hamventions at the old Hara Arena were legendary for the poor condition of the venue and ground. I was there for the famous explosion of sewage from the building into the main section of the flea market area at Hara. This was a huge, smelly mess but some have said it probably improved the smell of the joint. The new venue at the Greene County Fairgrounds in Xenia just doesn’t have that kind of ambiance, it is much more sterile and controlled.

At my first Hamvention, back in the 1980’s I went with a bunch of friends from CARMA that were also getting into GMRS and ham radio. At the time the various Motorola radios like the MT500, Expo, and HT600 were the prime radios for us GMRS guys. Some of us also had radios like the Icom U16, Yaesu FTC1143 and cheaper ones like Maxon’s and Regency’s. My fantasy radio however was the Motorola MT1000. My police department had a couple of these; they were the newest radios in the fleet. As I was still pretty much a rookie with only a couple years on the job (and no responsibility for the radio system yet) I rarely got to use one of these, usually being stuck with a GE model PE.

I scrimped and saved my pennies and nickels and went to Dayton with guys like Ron, Ron Jr., Scott, Denny, Bob and others. Ron would book a block of rooms at a local Suites type hotel not far from Hara and we would have a caravan of cars heading to Dayton each year. We usually arrived early Thursday morning and spent the day at the Air Force Museum before meeting up at the hotel. We would then go someplace nice for dinner. There is a story about the Oyster Bar that is better left unsaid here.

While at the Hara the “inside” buildings did not open until Noon on Friday but the flea market outside opened early. I was mostly interested in the flea market anyway at the time as I was looking for my dream MT1000. That first morning on Friday I soon found the radio itself (99 channel UHF along with a decent battery and rapid charger. Later I found things like a DTMF front panel with ANI (GE-Star and MDC) as well as more batteries, a standard desktop charger and a Public Safety Mic.

Later that weekend I also found many more accessories. Scott had his laptop and was able to get the radio programmed up for me so I could use it the rest of the weekend.

While that pretty well blew my radio budget for that trip, other guys in our group also found toys. I think Ron and Ron Jr. picked up a couple MT500’s, someone got an HT600, and we all found various accessories and antennas etc.

After that most Hamvention trips seemed to have a theme for me. One year it was Icom R7000 and R71 stuff. I found a TV adapter, RC-12 remote control and a replacement glass display cover for my cracked one. Another trip it was antennas. On most trips I ended up with a new-to-me scanner, antenna or even crystals for some of my older rigs.

One trip was all about my Micor. I found a great Micor mobile radio and at the next Hamvention found all the accessories, cables and head parts. I even found a complete installation and service manual as well as crystal elements and PL reeds.

A decade later I was asked to come and work the Scanner Master Booth for the rest of the years at Hara. While I was working, I tried to spend some time wandering the other booths, but it was difficult to get out in the flea market where the real action is.

Icom used to have models running around in bikinis to drum up interest in their products. It worked. They would walk the venue carrying Icom signs and inviting the sweaty masses to visit the large Icom display in the stadium section. They certainly drew a lot of attention.

One year we had Paul Opitz and Lindsay Blanton in our booth at various times over the weekend. It was the first time I had met either of them and I really enjoyed hobnobbing with them. We all went out to dinner one night, me along with Paul, Lindsay and Rich Barnett (owner of Scanner Master). I was kind of star-struck so just kept my mouth shut and listened all evening. If you know me then you will know how hard that was.

Another year we were invited to a vendor party by the Icom guys at the Packard Museum in Dayton. This was a great time, again hobnobbing with important people in the industry and having a great time viewing all the old cars and exhibits. Other times I met the head honchos of other radio companies. It was great to have connections!

For several years I traveled to Dayton with my friend Mike, a software programmer for one of the radio manufacturers. He would work their booth, and we would then go out for dinner and hang out in the evenings. Along with the guys from the original CARMA crew we sampled the fare at many Dayton area restaurants and amenities.

There were other fun times there but decorum and that the statute of limitation has yet to expire require those stories to have to wait. Needless to say, the years at Hara were always interesting, the fact that none of us died from sepsis or some other disease still amazes me considering how bad the Hara was and how much worse it became each year.

Around 2016. the Hara finally (and mercifully) closed its doors and Hamvention moved to the Greene County Fairgrounds in Xenia, 20 miles away. While there were traffic and mud issues in the flea market the first year there, subsequent years have been better administered, and the venue has proven to be a far better one than the old Hara joint. With several buildings, lots of space and parking and far better food options it is always a fun time. I missed Hamvention last year due to scheduling issues and of course we all missed the 2020 and 2021 years when Covid caused it to be cancelled.

Unfortunately, I rarely have had the opportunity to spend any time in the flea market recently. Working a booth means I cannot sneak away for too long. The few minutes I have been able to steal away were too short to really do much more than just glance at the booths. I have usually been able to quickly peruse the inside booths but rarely had time to do much more than gloss over them.

The 2018 Hamvention remains the most memorable one for me. That was the year we introduced the SDS100 to the world via The Scanner Guys. I have already written about that so look up that Tale. In short Jonathan and I had the only two SDS100’s available for public viewing and we had hundreds of people lining up to see them. The next year we had them for sale and did a land office business.

Hamvention is also famous for its weather. It is common for it to rain during the weekend, when it was still held in April it would occasionally snow. This actually helps the inside vendors as it drives the masses inside and away from the flea market. The first year at the fairgrounds there were mud issues in the flea market area, many booths were flooded and mobility carts got stuck in the mud. Add to this the poor traffic plan in place and it was a pretty miserable time for a lot of people. They figured it out however and things are a lot smoother now.

This year the weather was great. While it rained like hell Friday night, it was bright and sunny most of the daylight hours, if a little breezy. I will take that any time!

This year we had the RH200 Remote Head prototype on display in our booth. An earlier prototype was displayed last year but as I was unable to attend so did not have a chance to discuss it with booth visitors. We had a lot of interest both years and hope to have that out soon.

We had a lot of friends show up at the booth this year as always. A lot of people recognized me from “The Scanner Guys” show. I got to see Jonathan there as well. I saw people from RadioReference, CARMA and other radio forums I participate in.

Whistler’s new owners had a really nice booth this year, they told me they hope to have new designs soon but for now still have the same lineup as before the ownership change. While the Whistler designs are stale for sure, let’s hope they do come up with new radios, if only to keep Uniden on its toes. There have been too few new toys available for scanner people recently we can only hope for some more exciting things to come to future Hamventions.

Other changes this year at Hamvention is the lack of some favorite vendors. MFJ has closed up shop, so their large presence was missed for sure. R&L Electronics was also missing from their usual space. Several other long-time vendors also were not there. The buildings were all full however, some of the freed-up spaces were used to expand other vendors or allow new ones in.

While I did not end up with any new toys this year, I did seriously consider one of the Xiegu HF rigs, they are sexy looking machines! RadioOddity had them in their booth in the same building as ours. I just could not convince myself however, as I already have an IC-705 that does just about everything these radios do and more. I was also constrained by what I could fit in my carry-on as I was flying both ways.

Speaking of flying… Every time I fly thru Atlanta my flight is late. This trip was no exception. On the way in, time was tight as we had 7:30 dinner reservations at a really nice place. My flight from Atlanta was supposed to land in Dayton at 6, so I would have time to grab an Uber to the hotel, get checked in and changed and go to dinner with the crew. Of course, since I was changing planes in Atlanta the departing flight was 45 minutes late. They made up a couple minutes in the air, but it was still 7:00 before I got out of the terminal and into a cab. I decided to go straight to the restaurant instead and the cabbie broke a few speed laws to get me there on time. Google Maps had it as 35 minutes from the airport to the restaurant, he made it in 25 and earned an extremely generous tip. I made it in time for dinner, he went back to the airport with a pocketful of cash, much more than he expected.

On the way home Atlanta lived up to its reputation again. My inbound flight was on time, but the departing one was again an hour late. This was less stressful, it just meant I would be home a bit later, but it still meant a 4-hour layover vs. a 3-hour one. I had a nice dinner and a cocktail and watched a movie on my iPad to pass the time. I did wish I had put my 436 in my flight bag instead of the suitcase so I could do some listening while I waited. On all 4 flights this weekend I made use of my noise-cancelling headphones. They are a real life saver when flying in coach!

Hamvention is obviously the biggest hamfest in the country, drawing people from around the world. It is something every radio enthusiast should experience at least a few times in their lifetime. It is crowded, noisy, dirty and all the other things radio people will enjoy. While the new Fairgrounds venue is much less dirty it is still a great time. I would like to go to HamCation in Orlando one of these years, perhaps I can convince the wife that a trip to Florida to see family or Mickey Mouse with a day at the fest is in order.
 

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Yes the HARA was very representative of the HAM personality, it's no wonder the sewer didn't explode until Hamvention was finally there 😂 I wonder what you guys must've had for lunch that day. It was sad to see how quickly it fell apart after being closed, I remember seeing an urban explore video back in 2018 just 2 years after and you wouldn't have recognized the place. Just glad the convention didn't get shuttered too after that happened.
 

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I've never been to the Dayton or Orlando shows, but have attended plenty of hamfests in NJ and PA, including the large one held annually in Sussex County. I always managed to find at least one treasure at these shows, usually a vintage scanner back when I was collecting them.

With the rise of Ebay, I was able to find just about any vintage radio I was looking for online. For new radios, I went with dealers such as Universal Radio, HRO, etc.
 

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Good you held off on the oyster story. For the record, the words "oyster" and "Ohio" should NEVER be used in the same sentence. I utter this as I hail from an area that is close by the beds of the best oysters in the galaxy....Wellfleet, MA.

That's about all I've got. I went back in 2005. Would like to return again if possible. It was an experience!
 

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Two things in Dayton that I really, really, really want to do is to attend the Hamvention and to visit the USAF Museum at Wright-Paterson AFB. I've had an interest in radio since I was born, been a scanner/ham user since 1982, and have only had in interest in aviation since I was born! I'm 60 now but it doesn't look like I'll ever be able to get to Dayton!
 

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I have been to Hamvention and others this going back a few decades. All the people coming together, buying/selling old stuff, the vendors selling new stuff I for one and am glad to see it continue. Good memories.
 

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Too broke, never been. Lived in North Jersey until 2004 and hit ~10 hamfests a year, but here in Pa. there's none for 50 miles and I hate driving more the older and crabbier I get. Bloomsburg in June, that's it for the year.
 

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::laughs from the Gulf Coast::
For warm water oysters, the Apalachicola's were pretty darned good too. Had altogether too many of them when I was in that area several years ago. That being said, they should never be mentioned in the same sentence as Ohio either.

Next time I go to Hamvention, I'm flying. My co-pilot for the 2005 trip decided that he didn't want to share in the driving duties, and 15 hours from there back to Cape Cod...well, I'm lucky I survived to eat the Apalachicola oysters probably...
 

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Went to Dayton for the first time in 2004 and returned every year with my last trip in 2013.

My first time there I won the Heil t-shirt toss that had the ticket in it to pick anything they sold. After serious thought I picked the Gold Line microphone. Several other hams from the club I a member of was with me were joking they had been there many times and never won anything.

Bought several radios, scanners, programming software, accessories, coax and antennas during the years. Say alot of hams I personally knew and met alot of other great people over the years.

Always saved my extra cash to buy and yearly supplies. Always went looking for deals and then went back to make my purchases.

Haven't been able to make it to Xiena yet. Really miss the annual trips down there.
 

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I saw you at the booth, but you were busy talking to customers. I did talk briefly with Rich. You missed a very good flea market and I ended up buying a Motorola 900 MHz XTL P25 radio that was on my want list for way less than eBay prices. This is my favorite song about Hara Arena.
 

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This year we had the RH200 Remote Head prototype on display in our booth. An earlier prototype was displayed last year but as I was unable to attend so did not have a chance to discuss it with booth visitors. We had a lot of interest both years and hope to have that out soon.
when is this remote head finally gonna come out and do they have a price yet ?
 

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I stopped flying into Dayton because I found the costs higher, but I'm also flying Delta and that may be part of it. I now fly into Columbus (CMH) from Providence (PVD). Flights are cheaper and more options available. Most of the time my flights have gone through Detroit (DTW) with minimal disruptions. The drive from Columbus to Dayton is 1 hour due west and is a fairly easy commute.

One thing I noticed is that attendance this year seemed off. The buildings weren't as crowded as they were last year. I was able to walk around with ease and my travel partner was using a scooter and he had no trouble navigating around the people unlike last year where it was more like bumper cars.

I did get to meet you guys and had a conversation about my SDS200 issues I had and ended up buying the ARC software. I haven't tried it yet though.
 

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I stopped flying into Dayton because I found the costs higher, but I'm also flying Delta and that may be part of it. I now fly into Columbus (CMH) from Providence (PVD). Flights are cheaper and more options available. Most of the time my flights have gone through Detroit (DTW) with minimal disruptions. The drive from Columbus to Dayton is 1 hour due west and is a fairly easy commute.

One thing I noticed is that attendance this year seemed off. The buildings weren't as crowded as they were last year. I was able to walk around with ease and my travel partner was using a scooter and he had no trouble navigating around the people unlike last year where it was more like bumper cars.

I did get to meet you guys and had a conversation about my SDS200 issues I had and ended up buying the ARC software. I haven't tried it yet though.
According to their Facebook Page they had a record attendance of 36,814. The weather was cooperative so perhaps that kept people outside more.

Anecdotally it seemed to me to be pretty much the same as past years, at least in the inside exhibit area. I wasn't there last year but it seemed on par with 2023 and other years before Covid. I think Friday was busier than Saturday, at least inside. In the past Saturdays seemed busier than Fridays. I did not get a chance to go out to the flea market so that might have been different.

As an exhibitor, we came in the back way so there was very little traffic for us to deal with. We have a route that pretty much avoids any traffic issues and we park right outside our building. The parking was a little tighter than in the past. The RV section seemed pretty full too.
 
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