FCC license question

[KevinC]

Pretty sure I know the answer, but if someone is licensed as below they can't have the repeater output on 468.300, correct?

 

[a417]

not with that filing.

 

[KevinC]

It doesn't affect me in any way, I'm just curious. But as a Junior Forensic Scannist™ this one irked me as I assumed it was an image/mix and I spent some time looking elsewhere in the spectrum for it. I broke one of my own rules (verify with another manufacture radio), but once I fixed that I confirmed it was really on 468.300.

I seem to recall under a certain wattage (2w or 4w?) you can license as mobiles only and still use a repeater, but I wasn't sure the pair could be reversed.

 

[jeepsandradios]

Correct. The license doesn't show repeater. It should be as you thought 463.3 tx and 468.3 rx. 463.3 is the FB2. Most likely someone who doesn't know how to setup a repeater. I've found other repeaters in the past customers had with swapped frequencies (mostly VHF).

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

It doesn't affect me in any way, I'm just curious. But as a Junior Forensic Scannist™ this one irked me as I assumed it was an image/mix and I spent some time looking elsewhere in the spectrum for it. I broke one of my own rules (verify with another manufacture radio), but once I fixed that I confirmed it was really on 468.300.

I seem to recall under a certain wattage (2w or 4w?) you can license as mobiles only and still use a repeater, but I wasn't sure the pair could be reversed.

I have licensed some vehicular repeaters on "the high side" as MO2's with 2 watts output. The coordinator, APCO, was fine with that. But normally, no you don't have a duplex repeater pair, FB2, with the high and low flipped.

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

Correct. The license doesn't show repeater. It should be as you thought 463.3 tx and 468.3 rx. 463.3 is the FB2. Most likely someone who doesn't know how to setup a repeater. I've found other repeaters in the past customers had with swapped frequencies (mostly VHF).

What I see on the example looks correct. Two FB2's at location 1 and 4 MO's at location 2 (mobile coverage around Loc 1), in repeater and simplex modes.

 

[AM909]

Are you sure the "input" is 463.3000 and not some other freq (i.e. from a vehicular repeater), landline, microwave (i.e. a remote base), etc.?

 

[ecps92]

It doesn't affect me in any way, I'm just curious. But as a Junior Forensic Scannist™ this one irked me as I assumed it was an image/mix and I spent some time looking elsewhere in the spectrum for it. I broke one of my own rules (verify with another manufacture radio), but once I fixed that I confirmed it was really on 468.300.

I seem to recall under a certain wattage (2w or 4w?) you can license as mobiles only and still use a repeater, but I wasn't sure the pair could be reversed.

I've caught some like that where I thought it was a repeater inverted, but turned out to be a patch or mobile repeater from another pair

Some of the things that make us go Hmmmmmmm

 

[KevinC]

Are you sure the "input" is 463.3000 and not some other freq (i.e. from a vehicular repeater), landline, microwave (i.e. a remote base), etc.?

I can confirm the input is 463.300.

 

[KevinC]

I've caught some like that where I thought it was a repeater inverted, but turned out to be a patch or mobile repeater from another pair

Some of the things that make us go Hmmmmmmm

I could see that, but before I confirmed the input was 463.300 I listened to 463.300 and heard nothing when 468.300 was active.

 

[GTR8000]

If the frequency is not licensed as FB2, then no, the repeater's output cannot legally be on that frequency.

But...but...are you SURE that you're not listening to the input?!?!? Are you sure you're hearing anything at all, and not figments of your wild imagination?!?!?

Also I friggin love the Junior Forensic Scannist™, that was obviously not lost on me. Outstanding. ⭐