FDNY radio tone out

[JackRoberts23]

You all are being so rude. I'm just trying to learn and you guys are pretty much forcing me to stop. You say I shouldn't be messing with stuff like that, but I have the proper permission.

So you're saying you don't want your radio to TRANSMIT any tones, but you want to hear them when they're present in a signal you are listening to? That's fine. But take this advice: Don't program your radio to transmit any tones or signalling sequence that aren't NEEDED for a legitimate purpose. And only on frequencies you are licensed to transmit on.

You can listen to whatever you want. How you get the radio programmed to listen to certain systems is a separate topic, or several.

Yes, I want a certain tone that is transmitted with a signal I am listening to. I am not licensed or allowed to transmit on FDNY frequencies but I want to hear the tone.

 

[KevinC]

If what others are saying is true and it’s a tone from the console then you can’t duplicate that as it isn’t being generated within the radio.

But numerous models of scanners will let you assign a cool sound to a frequency or TG so when it receives it that sound will play.

 

[JackRoberts23]

So how does the guy in the video have it?

 

[ElroyJetson]

You have no control over the signals you receive other than to pick what frequency you are listening to. If that alert tone isn't being transmitted, there's nothing you can do about it. Why even ask?

Or are you still not being clear enough about your desires? You're NOT looking to TRANSMIT a tone. That much seems fairly clear.

Do you want the radio to GENERATE a tone for you to hear when the radio is receiving a certain signal? An alerting tone? Like the radio starts beeping when it hears a 1050 Hz alerting tone from the National Weather Service on the local NOAA weather radio frequency?

It's possible for the radio to generate alerting tones based on received single tone, dual tone, (quick call), and MDC messages.

But you have to know the tone/signal sequence for that to work.

 

[KevinC]

So how does the guy in the video have it?

He doesn’t “have it”. It’s a tone transmitted by the dispatch console. Get a job as a dispatcher and you can get your fill of generating that tone.

 

[Tank67]

So how does the guy in the video have it?

He doesn’t “have” it, he is listening to the channel and said tones are being played on the channel. Nothing more, nothing less. Those tones you hear 30 seconds in can be heard on a scanner.

Edit: Sorry Kevin, we posted at the same time

 

[JackRoberts23]

He doesn’t “have” it, he is listening to the channel and said tones are being played on the channel. Nothing more, nothing less. Those tones you hear 30 seconds in can be heard on a scanner.

Edit: Sorry Kevin, we posted at the same time

Well why can’t I hear it

 

[KevinC]

Well why can’t I hear it

We have no idea.

 

[JackRoberts23]

Well that’s great

 

[KevinC]

Post your codeplug and maybe one of the smart people here will take a look at it.

 

[JackRoberts23]

I understand. But for every new call that goes out, I don’t hear that tone

 

[ElroyJetson]

It's probably just not being transmitted by your local FD. Not every FD uses the same signalling protocols as NYFD, you do realize that, right?

My local FD doesn't use any form of tone or digital signalling other than the initial page-out to the stations.

What FD are you listening to? State, county, city....?

 

[JackRoberts23]

Post your codeplug and maybe one of the smart people here will take a look at it.

Are you meaning to say that I’m not smart? And besides, I thought the rules of RR was that you can’t share code plugs? Or is that just software?

 

[JackRoberts23]

It's probably just not being transmitted by your local FD. Not every FD uses the same signalling protocols as NYFD, you do realize that, right?

My local FD doesn't use any form of tone or digital signalling other than the initial page-out to the stations.

I’m talking abt FDNY

 

[KevinC]

I thought the rules of RR was that you can’t share code plugs? Or is that just software?

RR has no such rule.

 

[JackRoberts23]

Oh. I thought they had a rule stating no mention of obtaining a software or code plug is allowed? Either way, I will hopefully post it shortly

 

[KevinC]

Oh. I thought they had a rule stating no mention of obtaining a software or code plug is allowed? Either way, I will hopefully post it shortly

No such rule about codeplugs.

 

[ElroyJetson]

I’m talking abt FDNY

So, come out and say it. "I am within reception range of FDNY. I can hear them on my radio. But I am not hearing their tones that I believe they transmit."

Can you be that clear about your situation and what you want to do, for the first time in this conversation? Getting real information out of you is so difficult, it's like you're being asked to testify before Congress!!!!

You haven't even bothered to say what kind of radio you have!!!

We can't read your mind. So GIVE INFORMATION TO US. IT WILL HELP.

 

[GTR8000]

I already explained this to you, but you're not grasping the concept. FDNY does not tone out. Period.

The tone you are referring to is a simple 1 kHz tone generated by the console as an attention grabber when they announce 10-75's, all hands, and multiple alarms. It's a short duration tone and is not intended to cause anything to alert.

Whatever you're trying to do with your radio to "know when a new call goes out" doesn't make sense for two reasons: 1) the alert tone is not long enough for the radio to decode as a single tone and 2) as already stated, it's not transmitted when each new run is announced over the air

That's the bottom line, and while I know this is the Motorola forum so we'll have users from all over the place unfamiliar with what you're actually asking about, I'm telling you all of this as a native NY'er who has been listening to the FDNY (not "NYFD") for decades. Listening right now, in fact.

 

[KevinC]

I already explained this to you, but you're not grasping the concept. FDNY does not tone out. Period.

The tone you are referring to is a simple 1 kHz tone generated by the console as an attention grabber when they announce 10-75's, all hands, and multiple alarms. It's a short duration tone and is not intended to cause anything to alert.

Whatever you're trying to do with your radio to "know when a new call goes out" doesn't make sense for two reasons: 1) the alert tone is not long enough for the radio to decode as a single tone and 2) as already stated, it's not transmitted when each new run is announced over the air

That's the bottom line, and while I know this is the Motorola forum so we'll have users from all over the place unfamiliar with what you're actually asking about, I'm telling you all of this as a native NY'er who has been listening to the FDNY (not "NYFD") for decades. Listening right now, in fact.

So you can’t hear the tone either?