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The simple facts are: if you want to encode it, use "singletone" if you want to decode it, set up a 2-tone decode and only set 1 tone for the duration of that tone. This being said, I believe for a tone that short you risk a LOT of falsing potential on receive.
I'd agree that the annoyance factor on any HAM, GMRS or MURS or work would be great if you're transmitting.
 

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You all are being so rude. I'm just trying to learn and you guys are pretty much forcing me to stop. You say I shouldn't be messing with stuff like that, but I have the proper permission.



Yes, I want a certain tone that is transmitted with a signal I am listening to. I am not licensed or allowed to transmit on FDNY frequencies but I want to hear the tone.
Permission from who to do what?
 

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If you actually have permission to get your personal radio programmed to listen to a P25 system, from a system administrator who IS the responsible person who can grant that permission, then it seems that you're but one nicely phrased request from being able to get your radio programmed "officially" with listen-only permissions, via a letter of authorization written from the administrator to the radio shop that services your department's radios. This avoids all grey area/legal issues associated with getting the radio programmed "out of network" which is ALWAYS grey area, sketchy business, and often involves doing things that aren't technically......legal.

He may be quite busy but you can write up a request showing what you want to listen to on your radio, a wish list, and ask him to sign off on it and tell the radio shop to do it.

I have NEVER heard of an actual system administrator granting permission for someone to get a Motorola radio programmed out of network on his system. That could be a career ender, because he's telling you it's OK to violate standard security protocols in place with EVERY public safety radio system, particularly the trunked system. And it's NOT OK.

Keep in mind, the Department of Homeland Security has a little bit of involvement in EVERY public safety trunked radio system. They have certain regulations that all public safety organizations are required to observe. Even if they may not directly affect how individual radios are programmed, (of that I'm not certain), they DO have some involvement in system security. It's due to DHS rules that your county's system sites are never opened for tours. You don't go into the equipment shelters without a legitimate need.
 

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I have NEVER heard of an actual system administrator granting permission for someone to get a Motorola radio programmed out of network on his system.
Then you don't get out much, because it happens, and more often than you might think.

Keep in mind, the Department of Homeland Security has a little bit of involvement in EVERY public safety trunked radio system. They have certain regulations that all public safety organizations are required to observe. Even if they may not directly affect how individual radios are programmed, (of that I'm not certain), they DO have some involvement in system security. It's due to DHS rules that your county's system sites are never opened for tours. You don't go into the equipment shelters without a legitimate need.
Wut? Uh, no. DHS has no "involvement" in "EVERY" public safety TRS. Where do you get some of this stuff from? Jeez.
 

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There are lots of instances where one authority doesn't know something that another one does, where one hand doesn't know what the other is doing. This edition of the US government in particular seems to suffer intensely from that problem. So you could absolutely be right and my sources misinformed. Don't know. Not inclined to argue about it.

I AM, however, surprised that any trunked system administrator would give permission for someone to get a radio programmed on his system but by back channels. Seems rather risky. It's one thing to be tolerant of people you KNOW are scanning your system with a public safety radio, but are not causing any trouble. But to give them permission, however informal....honestly I'm surprised that'd happen.
 

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If you actually have permission to get your personal radio programmed to listen to a P25 system, from a system administrator who IS the responsible person who can grant that permission, then it seems that you're but one nicely phrased request from being able to get your radio programmed "officially" with listen-only permissions, via a letter of authorization written from the administrator to the radio shop that services your department's radios. This avoids all grey area/legal issues associated with getting the radio programmed "out of network" which is ALWAYS grey area, sketchy business, and often involves doing things that aren't technically......legal.

Judging by the video that he posted, this is a conventional, analog channel.
 
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