Federal VHF Band Plan

[KampingAnthony1AolCo]

Don't assume an agency is using the published NTIA band plans, as there are plenty of Legacy plans still in play as agencies migrate to this new format.

The only confirmation is actual monitoring, over a long (more than just days, weeks) period of time.

Ok thanks for the info. I will be monitoring it a little longer than just a day like you said. Thanks .

 

[KampingAnthony1AolCo]

Don't assume an agency is using the published NTIA band plans, as there are plenty of Legacy plans still in play as agencies migrate to this new format.

The only confirmation is actual monitoring, over a long (more than just days, weeks) period of time.

I had one more question for you Bill. Does the reframing of the Federal VHF band include the National Guard too or do they not have to reframe?

 

[ecps92]

VHF is VHF, user doesn't matter

Refarming not Reframing

Freq/Tone ? Share :roll:

I had one more question for you Bill. Does the reframing of the Federal VHF band include the National Guard too or do they not have to reframe?

 

[KampingAnthony1AolCo]

VHF is VHF, user doesn't matter

Refarming not Reframing

Freq/Tone ? Share :roll:

Thank you for the info. I dont know if there is any point in sharing it. I dont have a NAC for it. It is 168.040 in P25. Sounds like mobile and handhelds like you said eariler. I found this in the Wiki.

National Incident Radio Support Cache - The RadioReference Wiki

And this....

The Fed Files Blog

After looking at this and listening to want I am hearing I am not sure what it is. IDK.

 

[KampingAnthony1AolCo]

VHF is VHF, user doesn't matter

Refarming not Reframing

Freq/Tone ? Share :roll:

Thank you for the info. I dont know if there is any point in sharing it. I dont have a NAC for it. It is 168.040 in P25. Sounds like mobile and handhelds like you said eariler. I found this in the Wiki.

National Incident Radio Support Cache - The RadioReference Wiki

And this....

The Fed Files Blog

After looking at this and listening to want I am hearing I am not sure what it is. IDK.

It might be a input Freq to a output. It was in the clear. I heard unit 193 and bring forums in. I thought I heard about a airplane coming in but I might be wrong.

 

[KampingAnthony1AolCo]

VHF is VHF, user doesn't matter

Refarming not Reframing

Freq/Tone ? Share :roll:

I didnt share the info right away becuase you said and Phil said when he was on here that I should sit and monitor it a little more rather than jumping the gun and putting it on here. Take notes and listen to what they say and stuff.

 

[ecps92]

If your going to post, then add the Freq/Tone

What we suggested was Sit Back, keep off the internet and listen before posting.

I appreciated them enthusiasm, but you are getting close to being on the Ignore list.

I didnt share the info right away becuase you said and Phil said when he was on here that I should sit and monitor it a little more rather than jumping the gun and putting it on here. Take notes and listen to what they say and stuff.

 

[KampingAnthony1AolCo]

If your going to post, then add the Freq/Tone

What we suggested was Sit Back, keep off the internet and listen before posting.

I appreciated them enthusiasm, but you are getting close to being on the Ignore list.

OK sorry . You said to share the Freq/Tone .

 

[DaveNF2G]

OK sorry . You said to share the Freq/Tone .

Maybe this will help you.

When you find an unknown radio transmission, and you want to figure out who it is or ask other hobbyists to help you to identify it, the frequency alone is not enough information, particularly with respect to federal government agencies.

For analog frequencies, we also need to know the CTCSS tone (aka PL which is a Motorola trademark) or the DCS code (Digital Coded Squelch).

For digital frequencies, we need to know the NAC (Network Access Code).

If your receiver is unable to provide that information to you, then your station is not adequately equipped to identify federal traffic. We can't help you with that.

 

[KampingAnthony1AolCo]

Maybe this will help you.

When you find an unknown radio transmission, and you want to figure out who it is or ask other hobbyists to help you to identify it, the frequency alone is not enough information, particularly with respect to federal government agencies.

For analog frequencies, we also need to know the CTCSS tone (aka PL which is a Motorola trademark) or the DCS code (Digital Coded Squelch).

For digital frequencies, we need to know the NAC (Network Access Code).

If your receiver is unable to provide that information to you, then your station is not adequately equipped to identify federal traffic. We can't help you with that.

It helped thank you.

 

[SCPD]

You always could use win ctcss or other decoders just using the audio jack on scanner and the input on pc. With that is there a dpl decoder anywhere there's endless 2 tone to ctcss. Besides the discriminator tap method is there the old software he could use to find nac or dpl just by using the input audio?

 

[DaveNF2G]

That information is transmitted subaudibly, so the audio jack is not reliable for that purpose.

 

[JASII]

Federal VHF & UHF Band Plans

http://forums.radioreference.com/federal-monitoring-forum/298416-federal-vhf-band-plan.html

I originally posted about this a couple of years ago. Now that some times has passed, are people here finding that more agencies are in compliance with the suggested band plans or are there still some that a slow to come into compliance?

I just bought a new scanner and I am planning how to program my federal VHF & UHF stuff. One possible way is as follows:

138.0125-143.9875

148.0125-149.8875

150.0625-150.7875

166.5000-173.2000

173.4000-173.9875

406.1125-415.1000

With regards to 138-150.7875 (minus amateur radio 2 meters), is there still no band plan whatsoever there? Is it mainly military still?

With regards to 162-174, I gather that there shouldn't be any repeaters these days from 162-166.500. Are you still hearing some holdouts in your areas?

I have never known anybody local to me to use 380-390, but perhaps I should spend some time there to make sure that nobody has popped up. Is there any military AM on 380-400, or has that all moved since military land mobile has been allowed there?

Finally, on UHF from 415.100 to 420, is it pretty much all inputs there or might I find holdouts there, too?

 

[mancow]

Yes there are plenty below 166. Secret Service being one.

 

[ecps92]

Federal VHF/UHF Channel Plans - The RadioReference Wiki
I would go 137-144, as I've seen/found LMR users in 137 Mhz
148-150 / 150.7875 - expand to 150.8000

Change your VHF to 162-174
Yes there is Life below the NWS channels

Change your UHF to 400-420, most folks say 406-420, but there is life below 406

Not everyone has migrated to the NTIA standard, USFS / NPS etc have just begun the long journey and depending on your region/travels you will miss quite a bit, assuming agencies have converted (What is valid in one area, is not valid in others)

Only by active monitoring will we even be able to tell.

http://forums.radioreference.com/federal-monitoring-forum/298416-federal-vhf-band-plan.html

I originally posted about this a couple of years ago. Now that some times has passed, are people here finding that more agencies are in compliance with the suggested band plans or are there still some that a slow to come into compliance?

I just bought a new scanner and I am planning how to program my federal VHF & UHF stuff. One possible way is as follows:

138.0125-143.9875

148.0125-149.8875

150.0625-150.7875

166.5000-173.2000

173.4000-173.9875

406.1125-415.1000

With regards to 138-150.7875 (minus amateur radio 2 meters), is there still no band plan whatsoever there? Is it mainly military still?

With regards to 162-174, I gather that there shouldn't be any repeaters these days from 162-166.500. Are you still hearing some holdouts in your areas?

I have never known anybody local to me to use 380-390, but perhaps I should spend some time there to make sure that nobody has popped up. Is there any military AM on 380-400, or has that all moved since military land mobile has been allowed there?

Finally, on UHF from 415.100 to 420, is it pretty much all inputs there or might I find holdouts there, too?

 

[dlwtrunked]

http://forums.radioreference.com/federal-monitoring-forum/298416-federal-vhf-band-plan.html
With regards to 162-174, I gather that there shouldn't be any repeaters these days from 162-166.500. Are you still hearing some holdouts in your areas?

The DC area has many currently active repeaters between 162 and 166.500. Too many to list.