Frequencies: Public Info

[epfdtracktrunker]

I recently called a radio system company in my town, and asked for some frequencies and talkgroups. (For an ambulance service.) They told me that frequencies were in no way public information and could not be given out legally. I am wondering of this is true. I someone can help me with this, it would be greatly appreciated.

 

[scooby750]

This depends. It may be that they can not give out frequency information which means it would be illegal for them. Yet, you can get this information from this site by going too the database and putting in the name of the ambulance company and the state you live. Hope this was the information you where looking for.

Scoob

 

[flyingwolf]

The people you talked to are morons. Unless it is against thier policy to give them out then there is nothing illegal about it. Check the fcc website for the info you want. Or better yet see if they already have the frequencies you want in the RR database. (link is at the top of the page.)

 

[jbstahr]

I recently called a radio system company in my town, and asked for some frequencies and talkgroups. (For an ambulance service.) They told me that frequencies were in no way public information and could not be given out legally. I am wondering of this is true. I someone can help me with this, it would be greatly appreciated.

That is complete BS!!! :evil: They just don't want to give out the information or have an internal policy not to provide it. Saying it's illegal is a flat out lie! :roll: :roll:

 

[flyingwolf]

Chances are they simply werent in the mood to dole out all the frequencies on the phone.

Whats the number? we can all call them let them know just how free and open the frequencies are :twisted: J/K

 

[toydriver_det]

I recently called a radio system company in my town....

That is complete BS!!! :evil: They just don't want to give out the information or have an internal policy not to provide it. Saying it's illegal is a flat out lie! :roll: :roll:

OR it could be in their service contract that the information is not to be released in which case they would be in breach of contract for releasing it. Besides if I was running an operation that involved radios which service company would I go with, one that blabbed my private info to any yahoo that asked for it or one that treated my information (freqs, etc.) as private? You be the judge. :!:

 

[jbstahr]

OR it could be in their service contract that the information is not to be released in which case they would be in breach of contract for releasing it. Besides if I was running an operation that involved radios which service company would I go with, one that blabbed my private info to any yahoo that asked for it or one that treated my information (freqs, etc.) as private? You be the judge. :!:


That is probably the case, and if so they should just come out and say something like " We cannot disclose that information" or something to that effect. There is no reason to say it's "illegal" when anyone who would be asking for the info clearly knows it's not.

 

[Voyager]

They told me that frequencies were in no way public information and could not be given out legally.

I believe my response would be "YOU MEAN THEY ARE UNLICENSED?" as the entire FCC database is public info.

Call back and ask who they are licensed to (tell them you want to get in touch with the licensee), and look up that name on the FCC web site in the database. Don't take a runaround. If they are still reluctant, ask if it's because they are unlicensed, and ask for the callsign to prove it. (then look up that callsign on the FCC database and get the frequencies)

Talkgroups and CTCSS/CDCSS tones/codes are a different matter, as that is not public info. (except when it is posted on the internet)

Joe M.

 

[N_Jay]

That is probably the case, and if so they should just come out and say something like " We cannot disclose that information" or something to that effect. There is no reason to say it's "illegal" when anyone who would be asking for the info clearly knows it's not.

Hmmm, Last time I looked, "Breach of contract" was against the law.

You guys are being way too litteral about him saying it is ilegal.

He was doing his job.

 

[VegasCorbin]

Chances are they simply werent in the mood to dole out all the frequencies on the phone.

Whats the number? we can all call them let them know just how free and open the frequencies are :twisted: J/K

I guess it depends on how you define "Illegal". Giveing out info that you are prohibited by contract should not be done. Most (not all) people equate "Illegal" with going to jail. Violating the terms of a contract is contrary to the rule of law and will cost you money if you go to court, but (as far as I know) it won't get you sent to jail.

(getting off of soapbox)

Now what I would do is findout the frequencys through other methods (FCC, RR Database, etc.) and then call back, talk to the same person if posable, and TELL THEM the frequencys and ask them to confirm it.

They will still say that it is ilegal etc. Then tell them that it is public information. Don't tell them where you got the information. Then hang up. If you are lucky this will drive them nuts trying to figure out how yo got the info.

Or you could just get the frequencys and go about your way. Depends on how much you want to "tweak" them.

VegasCorbin

 

[T90A]

Call them back. Tell them you asked your lawyer and he said it was ok for them to give them to you.

 

[VegasCorbin]

Call them back. Tell them you asked your lawyer and he said it was ok for them to give them to you.

I like your answer better than mine

VegasCorbin

 

[JoeyC]

A radio operator is in no way obligated to give out frequencies of their customers. This information is public record if the freqs are licensed and I'm sure the "illegal" comment was their way to move you on your way and for them to get back to what they were doing before you called.

Its unheard of for a radio operator to look up that information for any bozo who calls on the phone. They probably have many customers and looking up this information for the average schmoe that calls is probably the last thing anyone wants to do.

 

[toydriver_det]

A radio operator is in no way obligated to give out frequencies of their customers. This information is public record if the freqs are licensed and I'm sure the "illegal" comment was their way to move you on your way and for them to get back to what they were doing before you called.....

I agree 100%. I work in the alarm industry and have been asked about freqs used for some our wireless devices (and this is really gonna bug some of you) I give out made up freqs like 2.6 Ghz and most people just saw WOW and go away!
Toydriver

 

[nmfire10]

Like JowyC said, they don't have to tell you squat. It isn't their job or responsibility. If someone called here asking me that, I would probably take the opportunity to make up some crazy reason why just to annoy the bozo that called.

 

[safetyobc]

I called our local radio system company a couple of months ago and was given the same exact answer. I called them a few weeks ago to ask what type of digital system the Arkansas State Police was going to use and was told the same thing again. I am a career firefighter and when someone calls the firehouse looking for freqs, I'll usually give them our freqs. I know there are people who will use it to thier advantage but most people just want to listen, and if the criminals want the freqs they can get them anyway.

When the company was installing our new radio system, they wouldn't even give out the new police depts. freqs to me, who has to work with the police a different incidents and have handheld portables with police freqs in them. This isn't a big town, population 7500. Needless to say it took about 5 seconds to find the freq by keying up on my radio and searching with my scanner but while they were installing them I didn't have a handheld.

 

[nmfire10]

Yep. But regardless of your affiliation, they are still not obligated to give you anything and they shouldn't give you anything. Like you all said... It is readlly available elsewhere and easy to find. It's not like they are inhibiting your rights as an earthling.

 

[N_Jay]

I called our local radio system company a couple of months ago and was given the same exact answer. I called them a few weeks ago to ask what type of digital system the Arkansas State Police was going to use and was told the same thing again. . . .

I called a XXXX company up and asked for some information about one of their customers, and they would not tell me! :roll:

Now I am all mad! :evil:

They should tell me cause, like, I could find out any way! :twisted:

Hi, Pizza hut. You don't know me, but I want to know what type of pizza the Smith's on First Street ordered last night? TELL ME, THERE IS NO LAW AGAINST IT!!

Hi, Bills Locksmith?
Yes, what kind of locks did you install at the Edward's residence last week? Schlague or Kwickset?

Oh, no reason. Thanks

Ya, know. Sometimes you guys crack me up. :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[flyingwolf]

No one here said they HAD to tell him. Just that thier answer of it being illegal to tell him is complete bull****.

Its not illegal. Maybe they have a policy of not giving them out but it is still not illegal.

 

[N_Jay]

No one here said they HAD to tell him. Just that thier answer of it being illegal to tell him is complete bull****.

Its not illegal. Maybe they have a policy of not giving them out but it is still not illegal.

Maybe;

#1) he might have believed it was illegal

or #2) he found it works best for stoping such requests

or #3) he was told to say that by his boss (Who might #1, or #2)