GMRS Two-Way Radios
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OTTER
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Come on guys, The government has people in place covering every jerkwater USA town ready to pounce on a guy who buys a high powered walkie talkie from the local discount store and uses it in the back yard? Our newspaper tonight was complaining about not enough PD in place to respond to domestics. If this is true and I'm not saying it isn't we need to make some serious enforcement adjustments!! $10,000 a day fine!!!!! Come on!!!!
Another spin, what if you have a tech or higher ham license does that cover the gmrs requirements?
Another spin, what if you have a tech or higher ham license does that cover the gmrs requirements?
hulka
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Even the Motorcycle Helmet radios, commonly know as chatter box, are starting to use the GMRS frequencies. It says in the instruction book that if you use channels lets say 9-16, they are GMRS frequencies and you need a license to operate on theses channels. If you do not operate on them you do not need a license. It even came with the license paperwork in the back of the book to fill out and mail in. I think it was like $10.00 for the license.
As for the FCC out there with there high tech equipment tracking law breaking people down, they were never in New Jersey when I lived there. There are so many guys riding around with Extremely High Powered CB's that can melt marshmallows when they keyed up, it is not funny. Half of them have there antenna light up when they key up. It will glow red or blue in the center of the coil. The only person that I ever heard of getting nabbed was some kid calling “MAYDAY” on the marine channels. He got "triangulated" and his pee-pee smacked, and told not to do it again. The High powered CBer's lived on though making S'mores with there antennas!
As for the FCC out there with there high tech equipment tracking law breaking people down, they were never in New Jersey when I lived there. There are so many guys riding around with Extremely High Powered CB's that can melt marshmallows when they keyed up, it is not funny. Half of them have there antenna light up when they key up. It will glow red or blue in the center of the coil. The only person that I ever heard of getting nabbed was some kid calling “MAYDAY” on the marine channels. He got "triangulated" and his pee-pee smacked, and told not to do it again. The High powered CBer's lived on though making S'mores with there antennas!
nd5y
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OTTER said:
No. A ham license is only good for ham radio frequencies and a GMRS
license is only good for GMRS frequencies.
Tom ND5Y
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N_Jay
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OTTER said:
No, the FCC enforcement devision is way understaffed, BUT that is no reason to flaunt the breaking on the law.
The fine is the same for most violations, from a multi-million dollar TV station being off frequency to a poor slob weaking his CB.
And NO, an Amature license does not cover the GMRS band!!!!
Does your dog license cover your car??
fourwd1
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Pro-95 said:
That's marketing jibberish aimed to SELL the radios, yet help cover Motorola's ass if a buyer ever gets caught using the radio illegally (it's not likely he'll ever get caught, but highly likely he'll use the GMRS channels)
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nmfire10
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And if you actually beleive the range printed on the fancy package, you've been had.
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N_Jay
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scanhoog said:
Ain't you funny!
P.S. I don't think there is any difference in the fine for operating without a license.
So just use any frequency you want, why stick to the GMRS channels.
I hear there is some good open spectrum in the military bands! :twisted:
Actually, according to the FCC's application search engine, there were 3000 new GMRS license applications received between 10/1/2003 and 9/30/2004. Of course, there were probably a million GMRS/FRS radios sold during that same period...
http://wtbwww05.fcc.gov/default.sph/UlsQueryApp.exe?FNC=query_type__Ahome_html
<AMENDMENT: Looks like the search engine limits out at 3000, so actually, probably more applications were received.
151 are currently pending
Over 3000 were dismissed in the last year
Over 3000 were granted in the last year
1 (application) was killed in the last year
1509 New applications were received in September.
By way of comparison, 1034 new Amateur Radio license applications were received in September.>
http://wtbwww05.fcc.gov/default.sph/UlsQueryApp.exe?FNC=query_type__Ahome_html
<AMENDMENT: Looks like the search engine limits out at 3000, so actually, probably more applications were received.
151 are currently pending
Over 3000 were dismissed in the last year
Over 3000 were granted in the last year
1 (application) was killed in the last year
1509 New applications were received in September.
By way of comparison, 1034 new Amateur Radio license applications were received in September.>
OTTER
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N_jay
Show me where any nobody was fined $10,000 a day for using a gmrs from there local wal-mart. Come on get a life!!
Show me where any nobody was fined $10,000 a day for using a gmrs from there local wal-mart. Come on get a life!!
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N_Jay
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OTTER said:
I did not say you were likely to get fined.
I was making the point that;
1) its ileagal
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2) (as far as I know) the fine is the same for most all FCC violations.
OTTER
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I hear ya n_jay!! I also don't beleive in breaking the law! I wonder what the real numbers are for folks that have these radio to those that actually get the license?
I just bought a set of uniden 8 milers to take to Mexico in october. I wonder what the laws are for a license there? Anyway have a great day N-Jay!
I just bought a set of uniden 8 milers to take to Mexico in october. I wonder what the laws are for a license there? Anyway have a great day N-Jay!
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N_Jay
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I think the license fee in Mexico is $50 in the hand of a Federali.
No, that was the "fee" for speeding,
Or was that the "import duty" on gifts,
No, that was the "non-resident parking fee".
Just bring lots of money to pay out! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Check this out - the FCC has some self-righteous peons doing the work for them:
http://www.popularwireless.com/cgi-...amp;number=15&DaysPrune=30&LastLogin=
Llwellyn
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Give me a break... "bubblepack pirates"?
I can see SOME merit to ONE of the cases listed on the front page of the forum. Businesses should NOT be using GMRS unlicensed, that's what MURS is for... other than that, sheesh.
The hot-air balloon topic is maybe another case where they do have a point; from an elevated standpoint your 2-mile range is going to be 20 miles or more if conditions are right... but some of the other posts on there? Wow.
I can see SOME merit to ONE of the cases listed on the front page of the forum. Businesses should NOT be using GMRS unlicensed, that's what MURS is for... other than that, sheesh.
The hot-air balloon topic is maybe another case where they do have a point; from an elevated standpoint your 2-mile range is going to be 20 miles or more if conditions are right... but some of the other posts on there? Wow.
OTTER
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Ok whats the point? I do hold a GRMS license and what does it mean? I use the "walkie Talkies" and I have $80.00 less in my pocket!! Whats the point?
Ham Tech and general as such you must muster up the gumption to pass a test, now that shows that they want to keep everyone who just screws around off the crowded airwaves unless they are serious enough to study and pass the test. I'm an electrical and Instrumentation tech so the test doesn't seem hard to me but the average nonelectrical-electronic person would have to work to obtain a license this makes sence. The $80.00 grms license I have, doesn't seem to mean squat other than the government has $80.00 of mine over 5 years to operate a $50.00 radio set???????
Ham Tech and general as such you must muster up the gumption to pass a test, now that shows that they want to keep everyone who just screws around off the crowded airwaves unless they are serious enough to study and pass the test. I'm an electrical and Instrumentation tech so the test doesn't seem hard to me but the average nonelectrical-electronic person would have to work to obtain a license this makes sence. The $80.00 grms license I have, doesn't seem to mean squat other than the government has $80.00 of mine over 5 years to operate a $50.00 radio set???????
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N_Jay
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OTTER said:
The same could be said for any FCC Station license, or a dog license, or a car registration, or a tilte fee on your house, or your business license, etc etc etc.
Stop whining and pay up!
scnnr
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:shock:
who is whining. We don't need to pay
I think I will go down to the border and see if I can bug one of those "GMRS PIRATE HUNTERS". :wink:
Just kidding guys Lets lighten up now.
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Sorry -- it's not like HAM or military bands, or even CB these days.
The GMRS radios are mass marketed and ready-to use (less the charge overnight instructions).
I'd agree that licensing isn't a bad idea, but adding $80 cost to radios that cost about that much is silly. How would they tell the licensed vs unlicensed?
I think the licensing requirement is silly. If you want to mass-market a radio that requires licensing, at least make the user code their call-sign into the radio before operation, maybe using a secret key paired with each call sign, but at least a call sign that is automatically transmitted and necessary to enable the radio.
I certainly would advise businesses to be extra careful, and think anyone with the extra time and $80 who is in the least bit concerned to get a license (or just FRS or MURS).
Happy talking
The GMRS radios are mass marketed and ready-to use (less the charge overnight instructions).
I'd agree that licensing isn't a bad idea, but adding $80 cost to radios that cost about that much is silly. How would they tell the licensed vs unlicensed?
I think the licensing requirement is silly. If you want to mass-market a radio that requires licensing, at least make the user code their call-sign into the radio before operation, maybe using a secret key paired with each call sign, but at least a call sign that is automatically transmitted and necessary to enable the radio.
I certainly would advise businesses to be extra careful, and think anyone with the extra time and $80 who is in the least bit concerned to get a license (or just FRS or MURS).
Happy talking
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