Gore mountain digital radio signal questions

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Unfamiliar with that area, but know DMR overall. If they are using a repeater, they may have RAS implemented. If that’s the case, you’ll only be able to listen via scanner or SDR. Without the RAS key, radios are SOL.
 

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ok so i put in my scanner 453.6350 CC6 TG 9008 SL 1 and i am getting Signal strength indicator but not voice
Why do you think it is TG9008? That would be a very unusual TG for a conventional system and it would not necessarily be SL 1. Did you try "wildcard" settings for TG and SL. How did you confirm it is CC 6?
 

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Why do you think it is TG9008? That would be a very unusual TG for a conventional system and it would not necessarily be SL 1. Did you try "wildcard" settings for TG and SL. How did you confirm it is CC 6?
He's likely thinking that 9008 is the TG, because he's seen it used heavily in Connecticut. 9008 is used in CT because one of the larger radio shops, in the state, Northeast Communications (NorComm), uses 9008 a lot there as the sole TG on conventional systems they install. The 9008 is in reference to their phone number (203) 575-9008.

The only way to know what TG is being heard is to search for it. That's the only way. Wild ass guesses aren't going to help.
It could be anything from 1 to 16777215.
 

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He's likely thinking that 9008 is the TG, because he's seen it used heavily in Connecticut. 9008 is used in CT because one of the larger radio shops, in the state, Northeast Communications (NorComm), uses 9008 a lot there as the sole TG on conventional systems they install. The 9008 is in reference to their phone number (203) 575-9008.

The only way to know what TG is being heard is to search for it. That's the only way. Wild ass guesses aren't going to help.
It could be anything from 1 to 16777215.
That is interesting. I have seen some shops use things like the customer phone number or zip code but haven't seen a shop code used on customer systems before.
 

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Quite likely. Gore mtn is one of several locations. I don't hear them from gore mtn in northern clinton county, but I do hear the whiteface one.
The frequency the OP is hearing is licensed to the Gore Mountain Ski area for DMR or analog, he says they are using XPR7550 DMR radios, and he seems to have confirmed he is hearing the ski operations. So Essex County P25 use at the site is not relevant. The only thing in question is to determine the correct DMR settings. He seems to have somehow determined it is CC6 so not sure why he is guessing at the TG and Slot data.
 

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If you have the scanner properly programmed for DMR and are seeing signals the scanner does not recognize it is possible they use the DMR Basic Privacy feature which is available in the XPR7550.
 

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The frequency the OP is hearing is licensed to the Gore Mountain Ski area for DMR or analog, he says they are using XPR7550 DMR radios, and he seems to have confirmed he is hearing the ski operations. So Essex County P25 use at the site is not relevant. The only thing in question is to determine the correct DMR settings. He seems to have somehow determined it is CC6 so not sure why he is guessing at the TG and Slot data.
i am using a BCD325P2 scanner with the 453.3250 frequency and also have the color code on search and i was able to put of the mountain crew but was not able to get the talkgroup but when i put in the 1001 and 9008 in i do get signal strength but nothing else no voice
 

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He's likely thinking that 9008 is the TG, because he's seen it used heavily in Connecticut. 9008 is used in CT because one of the larger radio shops, in the state, Northeast Communications (NorComm), uses 9008 a lot there as the sole TG on conventional systems they install. The 9008 is in reference to their phone number (203) 575-9008.

The only way to know what TG is being heard is to search for it. That's the only way. Wild ass guesses aren't going to help.
It could be anything from 1 to 16777215.
well when i did do the wild card search that was the first talkgroup that came up with color code 6 and there was ski operations talking and i am only 4 miles away from the mountain and i am still getting full signal strength
 

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I am not familiar with the BCD325P2 but it appears from reading the instructions that is should receive audio on any unprogrammed TG when it is in Search mode. If it does not, it is likely that Basic Privacy is in use. It may very briefly flash info on the display at the beginning of an encrypted transmission then show signal strength but no info on the display and no audio. If it is like the 436/536 the info flash is very brief and you really have to stare at the display to catch it. It may not show at all on the 325.
 

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With the BCD325P2 and 996P2, it is much more difficult to ID the TG vs the x36/SDS series. You have to program it as a trunked system and have it in search mode but put in a dummy talk group. With a better scanner, such as the two I mentioned, you can ID them conventionally and easily.
 

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Ok its the ski resort, originally I had programmed all the essex county p25 freqs, some of which I don't get here save the whitface tower, and very seldom ticonderoga.
 
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