GPD Encription?

[coachrandy]

I read on RR its good to check if any PDs in your area are going encripted in the near future if you are planning to splurge for a new toy.I called Pitt Co Emergency Services and the nice guy that took my call said that to his knowledge no county ems or FD is going that way.I then called GPD and asked the same question the nice guy that is in charge of GPD communication says his goal is to be fully scrambled both FD and PD within a year providing he can get all the gear he needs which is slow due to the supply chain.It hurt my feelings a bunch I really have been lusting for the colorful 200 but Ill just keep my 436 and just keep up with what I can keep up with.The world is going in the wrong direction I quess

 

[richardbritt]

Actually when VIPER changes over in 2025 one of the requirements is the replacement radios have to include the ability to be encrypted.

This of course does not mean that everyone will be encrypted but they have that ability. I suspect that fire departments will at least dispatch calls in the clear, especially if they have volunteer firefighters in their jurisdictions.

Regards Richard

 

[spencerwww]

Has anybody updated is greenvill and pitt County going encrypted I hope.they stay in clear

 

[Soundman]

If thy have Volunteer Fire and Ems thy are not going to encrypted that system .Like hear in Charlottle thy are not going to do the ems or fire and finger cross thy will not do the police . There is to many radios to encrypt hear to do police thy have a tac channel already. But time will tell. If you are look to get the sds200 . Get the scanner .Then if thing change sell it. I have 8 scanner and I have the sds100 and 200 and I am not scared of the encrypt and you are right the world is going in the wrong direction.

 

[cjross2008]

I just ordered two APX6500s and they didn’t say anything about an encryption requirement for VIPER. I’ll call the rep and double check tomorrow.

 

[RaleighGuy]

I just ordered two APX6500s and they didn’t say anything about an encryption requirement for VIPER. I’ll call the rep and double check tomorrow.

This notice may help you understand, especially page three, where it states...

"With the adoption of the Common State Keys, VIPER has elected to place an additional
requirement on all radios being sold for use on the VIPER system, therefore any manufacturer
that is unable to support the key loading all of the above algorithms (ADP/ARC4, DES and
AES) via KVLx000 device, shall have their radios removed from the approved radio list
effective 1 January 2023."

https://www.ncdps.gov/media/6752/download

 

[spencerwww]

If thy have Volunteer Fire and Ems thy are not going to encrypted that system .Like hear in Charlottle thy are not going to do the ems or fire and finger cross thy will not do the police . There is to many radios to encrypt hear to do police thy have a tac channel already. But time will tell. If you are look to get the sds200 . Get the scanner .Then if thing change sell it. I have 8 scanner and I have the sds100 and 200 and I am not scared of the encrypt and you are right the world is going in the wrong direction.

I listen to fire ems anyway I think they weren't but csn anybody contact them or hear anything further put it here putt county has lot talks groups there vig.including east carolina sherffic greenvill and vident hospital

 

[RobKB1FJR]

This notice may help you understand, especially page three, where it states...

"With the adoption of the Common State Keys, VIPER has elected to place an additional
requirement on all radios being sold for use on the VIPER system, therefore any manufacturer
that is unable to support the key loading all of the above algorithms (ADP/ARC4, DES and
AES) via KVLx000 device, shall have their radios removed from the approved radio list
effective 1 January 2023."

https://www.ncdps.gov/media/6752/download

NC Highway Patrol can all ready monitor Davidson County Sherrif/Police since they "Have the code" which is a universal ENC code. So anyone on viper with viper radio priveliges to that Talkgroup should be able to hear things in the clear. At this time highway patrol dispatch is in the clear so if a major police event is going on in your county you can use the highway patrol talkgroups to get an idea of whats going on.

 

[Soundman]

I thought you could not get those APX6500s radios. I would love to have one as scanners radios for Charlottle .When I use to work for medic I had a radio that did police fire and ems .It was p25. It scanned Charlottle Police Medic and Fire. I miss that radio.

 

[spencerwww]

Well if any body talks.to.fire officials let.know.im from there hope.ems and police.dont fire.peole.in other guys form side weren't but police.might not.had all.facta ateight either I saw.one so that and they just did police some.might not even do it at alll.im sure thell have vote or something to get parts and if having issues getting parts

 

[BigLebowski]

NC Highway Patrol can all ready monitor Davidson County Sherrif/Police since they "Have the code"

Probably.

which is a universal ENC code.

No.

So anyone on viper with viper radio priveliges to that Talkgroup should be able to hear things in the clear.

No, absolutely not.

 

[Tech21]

I just ordered two APX6500s and they didn’t say anything about an encryption requirement for VIPER. I’ll call the rep and double check tomorrow.

It's better that you order them with AES encryption now because if it's needed in the future, the only you can add it is by sending the radio to depot. It is not something that can be done in the field.

 

[Tech21]

I thought you could not get those APX6500s radios. I would love to have one as scanners radios for Charlottle .When I use to work for medic I had a radio that did police fire and ems .It was p25. It scanned Charlottle Police Medic and Fire. I miss that radio.

The whole apx line is still available except for the 7000 series.

 

[spencerwww]

Has anybody heard updates is Greenville pd fire ems going encrypted or.is it police if anybody can update