Grant to augment communication
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unitcharlie
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This sounds like the Stamping Ground tower--where ever they finally stand it up...
unitcharlie
a Kentucky DB Admin...
This sounds like the Stamping Ground tower--where ever they finally stand it up...
It is. In addition I am told that the grant will also cover the instalation of a switch in dispatch so that the field radios will switch towers automatically. Right now all radios must be switched manually. A lot of people forget when they don't travel to the north end of the county much and it would be even worse if there were 3 sites to have to remember to switch between.
unitcharlie
a Kentucky DB Admin...
Do you know how the freqs will be allocated... right now there are only two unused non-Nextel freqs available... haven't seen anything in ULS showing new numbers going up...
I have no idea. If I see the radio guy I'll ask him. They are apparently having trouble finding a contractor to actually put in the tower. It will be interesting to see if the fire dept's decide to get back on the system once the tower is built.
Most of the police, S.O., EMS, and fire vehicles now have MDT's in them that are linked to dispatch. AVL's have been ordered, at least for EMS. There is no plan to go to silent dispatching in the near future, however. There are plans to use the Zetrons for station dispatching at some point. They are in all the stations and on the 800 MHz system but are not active.
Most of the police, S.O., EMS, and fire vehicles now have MDT's in them that are linked to dispatch. AVL's have been ordered, at least for EMS. There is no plan to go to silent dispatching in the near future, however. There are plans to use the Zetrons for station dispatching at some point. They are in all the stations and on the 800 MHz system but are not active.
unitcharlie said:
How many new frequencies will they need? I don't understand exactly how the system works, in terms of how the frequencies are allotted to each tower. Can any of them be used on both towers? I know that right now only 4 users can be talking simultaneously on either tower. Most of the talkgroups are broadcast across both towers though. Individual calls have the same priority as regular traffic so we aren't supposed to use this feature so as not to tie up the system. Instead we have conventional mode that we can switch to. GPD is broadcast over the Sadieville tower which I think is kind of silly since it ties up frequencies on that tower and they don't respond out into the county. If for some reason they did they would work on S.O.'s channel.
unitcharlie
a Kentucky DB Admin...
Lexington's TRS has three working sites and 22 freqs... eight each at the two "primary" and six on the Ky River valley site.... it would be easier to draw new freqs than to do the timing work to make three sites work with four freqs each... I never understood having GPD on the Sadieville Tower either, is Sadieville PD on the SO talk groups? I really hope no one does the silent dispatch thing, especially if the Stamping Ground Tower ever lights-up!
Keep us posted if you hear anything...
Keep us posted if you hear anything...
Sadieville and Stamping Ground PD both use S.O. channels, along with the constables. Stamping Ground units are 1200's and Sadieville is 1300's.
I don't foresee silent dispatching anytime soon. If anything, the initial dispatch would be across the radio and subsequent communication over the MDT's. For EMS, the supervisor needs to be able to keep track of the units and their status. Plus, the outlying stations have to know when to move up to cover. It's just not big enough to justify it. Plus, dispatch has only recently gotten into the habit of giving the districts out and usually don't when it's a multi-agency, simultaneous dispatch. The fire dept.'s always like to know who's doing what which is why all fire dispatches go across both city and county fire channels. It's then up to them to decide who and what responds.
I don't foresee silent dispatching anytime soon. If anything, the initial dispatch would be across the radio and subsequent communication over the MDT's. For EMS, the supervisor needs to be able to keep track of the units and their status. Plus, the outlying stations have to know when to move up to cover. It's just not big enough to justify it. Plus, dispatch has only recently gotten into the habit of giving the districts out and usually don't when it's a multi-agency, simultaneous dispatch. The fire dept.'s always like to know who's doing what which is why all fire dispatches go across both city and county fire channels. It's then up to them to decide who and what responds.
Jono40141 said:
Dispatching the calls over the MDT's (computers) rather than announcing them over the radio. I can potentially see police using this for non-urgent calls. I doubt fire or EMS would ever use it since they're not that busy and the supervisors wouldn't be able to keep track of their status without looking at the computer.
Just an update. Along with the new tower and addition of ProScan, the system is being upgraded to entirely digital operation. I don't have anymore information than that but when I do I'll post it.
unitcharlie
a Kentucky DB Admin...
I'm hearing that when the Stamping Ground Water Tower is drained that all the electronics to make the third site work will stand-up.... Still nothing new in the ULS....
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Supposedly they have the equipment already, including the switch to enable ProScan, they're just waiting to get it all installed. It's supposed to be done by June. Don't know what the timeline is with it being put in the FCC database. How long does it normally take between being put in the database and then being installed and going operational? I've also heard that the fire dept.'s will probably be going back to 800. As for going digital, I'm assuming it will be ProVoice, if he really knew what he was talking about when he said we were going all-digital. Surely it won't be on all talkgroups, probably just the SRT channel or some other LE talkgroups.
If you've been listening lately you've probably heard them dispatching fire to police and EMS calls separately. They haven't been doing it all the time, not sure why. They're also dispatching by unit sometimes, primarily in the city. This might have to do with the fact they're using the Zetron station alerting. Again, they're only using it some of the time. None of the fire guys I've talked to seem to be in the know on this. BTW, the Zetron alerting works over the 800 system.
If you've been listening lately you've probably heard them dispatching fire to police and EMS calls separately. They haven't been doing it all the time, not sure why. They're also dispatching by unit sometimes, primarily in the city. This might have to do with the fact they're using the Zetron station alerting. Again, they're only using it some of the time. None of the fire guys I've talked to seem to be in the know on this. BTW, the Zetron alerting works over the 800 system.
Just looked at the ULS, there was a request for an extension of time by Nextel. Anyone know what that's for? I thought the rebanding was complete, at least on our end. All our radios have been reprogrammed for a couple months now.
unitcharlie
a Kentucky DB Admin...
kyparamedic said:
Well... it is Nextel not dragging their heels.... they are supposed to take "possesson" of the "Nextelled" freqs in trade for the others....
The Stamping Ground site is finally being setup. They are working on it right now and hope to have it operational within the next couple of weeks. The location is the water tower. It will continue to be analog for right now.
They are finally using the new Stamping Ground site. The actual site has been complete for quite some time but there was a holdup with some type of software patch that was needed in dispatch. Stamping Ground PD is currently testing it and barring any problems, it will go online for everyone else in the next month or two. Channels are also no longer being patched together in dispatch like they were in the past and ProScan has been added but won't be active until all radios are reprogrammed.. There will be a tactical channel or two that is going to be ProVoice but no encryption planned at this time.
unitcharlie
a Kentucky DB Admin...
Gotta love it! Do you know the freqs? ULS has a new site at the Georgetown Water Tower....
Unfortunately I do not. I was told that we gained some though and be able to handle more traffic. The Stamping Ground site is also supposed to improve coverage in quite a few parts of Georgetown. I guess it has something to do with the elevation.
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