Scanner Tales: Fire Funnies

N9JIG

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Being a 9-1-1 dispatcher (well before we had 9-1-1 anyway), a fire-fighter/medic and a cop over a 40 or so year span I have had or seen my share of weirdities occur. Since this is a scanner forum I will try to keep it radio related as much as possible but please don’t shoot me if a segment or two are not specifically radio related.

Pager escape: Back in the late 1970’s when I was a young firefighter my usual spot was on the tailboard of the ladder truck. Back then one of the engines we had didn’t have jump seats but pretty soon it was replaced with a more modern one. Even so sometimes we ran with 5 or 6 guys, so two would have to ride the tailboard. I understand that this is no longer allowed but it was a common practice then. We had safety belts and a buzzer switch; 2 buzzes and you were good to go, 1 meant stop or stay.

We were on a call one day running down the main drag of town and I dropped my Minitor pager. I was trying to hear the radio traffic for the call, a house fire IIRC. Since we did not have a radio speaker on the tail board that was the only way to do so. I told my partner on the step and asked him “Now what?” He was a few years older than me, next up on the Lieutenant’s List, and well respected. He hit the buzzer and the company engineer/driver (Out east they would call him a chauffeur, but we were in the real world and called them drivers) hit the brakes. He must have thought one of us fell off or something.

Once stopped my partner took off running down the middle of the state highway, flashlight in hand, looking for my stray Minitor. Meanwhile I told the driver and captain that “We dropped our radio”. Now I didn’t mention that *I* dropped my pager, but he thought I meant a portable radio. Back then we only had 1 or portables per rig, one for the officer and one for the crew (on some rigs) and they were expensive. Soon enough my partner came running back, my pager in hand and said we are good to go.

He never told anyone it was MY pager, not a department owned two-way and that I dropped it. He took the fall, and the ribbing that went with it. Since he was well-liked, he joined right in. The chief was duly notified and decided that no harm/no foul and no discipline was needed. I did buy him dinner and a few beers. Since I was only 18 I had to drink Coke but he did enjoy the steak and Michelob.

I tried to get radio speakers added to the tailboard of the ladder and both engines, but they never did. Eventually they banned tailboard riding altogether and newer rigs had 4 jump seats.

Siren Stuck:

The ladder truck we had was equipped with the best siren known to man; a Federal Q. The Q Siren was basically a 100-amp 12V motor attached to a fan blade inside a housing that was engineered so that it made a loud, piercing wail. Ours was operated by either a dashboard switch or a foot pedal. It also had a siren brake to allow the officer to stop the siren quickly, otherwise it could take minutes for it to wind down once power is withdrawn.

Drawing 100 amps, this required some pretty thick wiring. We had was similar to a battery cable going to it but apparently someplace along the way there was a smaller wire attached that couldn’t handle the current draw. My memory has faded somewhat but it might have been in the relay, but whatever failed caused the siren to get stuck on. I was acting officer, being the most senior guy other than the engineer/driver so I got to ride in the right seat for the call at 3:00 on a 10 below zero winter night. I figured that if I had to be awake so should everyone else in town, so I let that mechanical marvel rip!

About halfway to the call we were turned around by dispatch as the alarm was an accidental trip. I let off on the floor button and pressed the siren brake. Nothing happened. The driver asked if I had heard that we were returned, I said yes, but that the siren would not stop. I crawled down to the floor to pull up on the siren switch, no joy there. Here we were at 3:00 AM, siren blaring, all the way back to the station. We pulled back into the bay and shut the doors to try to contain the noise, but now 15 guys inn the station are suffering from the torture of the loudest siren not mounted on a pole reverberating around a 3-bay fire house. It took 10 or 15 minutes to find the fuse panel and pull the cigar-sized fuse for that siren. The wiring was all enclosed in the bumper and we were all simultaneously trying to remove the siren from it’s mounts to no avail.

Pretty soon the police arrived at the firehouse trying to figure out what was wrong. I had tried to call them on the radio on the way back, but the siren was so loud they couldn’t hear us over it. They were getting calls from the neighborhood wondering if it was the tornado sirens going off, one family called us the next morning to ask if it was OK to come out of the basement yet.

The village mechanics finally figured out the problem and replaced some components, but I was off when the truck returned to service a few days later. As far as I know the two trucks that have replaced that mid-1970’s one have also had the same type of siren, let’s hope the switches were better made.

Pager Pollution:

Our small fire department was dispatched by the larger town next door. We did however have a fully equipped dispatch room and could take over dispatch if needed. This included a phone with the 7-digit (pre-911) emergency number, a desk set radio with both the dispatch and mutual aid channels, a scanner and, most importantly for this story, a Motorola QuickCall-II paging encoder. Now this encoder might not have been a Motorola product, I haven’t seen one elsewhere nor can I find any pictures. It was a set of square, white buttons with 6 rows and 2 columns. The rows were numbered 1 thru 6 and the columns were A and B. You selected the proper button from each column and pressed the red “Send” button. The tones would go out. Our Station 5 was 1-2, Station 6 was 3-2, the Chief was 4-2 and the all-call was 2-2. Other towns in our area used the same tone group, just different buttons. Each of the 4 towns had a different “B” tone, ours was “2” in whatever QC-II group it was.

When Flight 191 crashed near O’Hare Airport in 1979 I had been on the fire department for all of 4 months. Our dispatch center was also the head of the local Mutual Aid division and was responsible for coordinating response to the crash as it occurred in one of the nearby suburbs. The dispatcher called us and said we were on our own. We would have to answer our own phones (Pre-911) and radio traffic.

I was at home and saw a smoke header in the distance as I was washing my car. Soon there after my pager went off, and off again, again… The tones went out 10 or 12 times and in between I could hear someone saying, “How do I shut this off?” I assume that when he pressed the “Send” button he did so at a weird angle and caused it to get stuck in the closed position, repeating the pager tones over and over until he was able to mash it again to release it.

A year or so later at my dispatch job in another town we had a new paging encoder, this was possibly a CSI PE-1000 or similar, it had what looked similar to a Touchtone phone keypad. You pressed the proper numbers and then the “P” button to send the codes. Somehow, I figured out that if you pressed numbers on the keypad while it was sending the tones would change and make all kinds of weird sounds.

I played with this sometimes using the PW channel so I wouldn’t set off any fire pagers. One night a friend was working the next town over, and I told him to pop in our PW channel in his scanner but he was in the middle of a movie on TV (small towns, bored dispatchers…) so he said he didn’t bring it. I figured as long as I stayed away from the 5 & 9 buttons (which set off our pagers) I would be fine at 2 AM so I did it on the dispatch channel. Not a good plan! I thought it was a hoot, but Dan said something like “stop bothering me” and hung up.

5 minutes later the phone started ringing. First it was the deputy fire chief. Next it was the other deputy chief. Then the big chief. Turns out whatever buttons I pressed opened the Chief’s pagers. I didn’t even know they had a separate code.

Needless to say, the tapes were pulled the next morning. The only thing that kept me from getting fired was that I ‘fessed up and admitted I was playing around. If I had lied I would have been sent packing, as it was I took a day off and counted my blessings that it wasn’t worse.
 

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About 15-20 years ago, the town next to mine had its tornado siren activated at 12:30 a.m. The dispatch center didn't set off the tones, for whatever reason, the siren on the telephone pole outside of one of the fire stations in the middle of their town was the source of the noise. And it wouldn't shut off! To make a very long, involved story somewhat short(er), a Village employee had to use an axe and chop the 440-volt power lines to get it to shut off. Sparks flew, and there finally was silence. They estimated 150 calls came into the dispatch center from residents wondering why the siren sounded for hours. They could not shut it down, so they chopped the power lines up the pole. You have to wonder why crazy things like this happen.
 

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I grew up in a small town in rural SC (not where I live now). Back in the 1970’s, the local FD was dispatched to rescue a cat stuck high up in a tree (true story). The FD successfully rescued the cat. Everyone was happy! Then, when the fire truck was leaving the yard, it backed over the poor kitty…
 

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I heard Baltimore City Fire dispatch a medic unit for a report of a sick cow. The dispatcher cancelled the call once he realized what he just read.
One of the first calls I went on as a newly made member of the FD was for a horse stuck in a swimming pool. Our town was at the time on the edge of the urban sprawl and there were still a lot of farms in the area so horses were pretty common (as were sheep but that is a story for a different forum).

We get there and this poor horse was stuck in a lap pool. This was a pool with no shallow end, intended for competitive swimming practice. Since I was the only guy on the call with any experience with horses (we rode all the time as kids) I dropped my bunker gear and hopped in to calm the fellow and keep his head above water while we figured out how to get him out. Eventually a crane was found nearby on a construction project and they were able to set a sling to get him out.

Hearing "a horse stuck in a swimming pool" come over the scanner brought out a busload of onlookers!
 

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I remember when I was young I had an older friend that I attended church with and at the time he was around 17 and was a jr. firefighter. We were in the middle of church service, specifically durng the prayer requests and testimonial prayer and his pager dropped the tone for a call. He had it turned down, but the alarm went off for his station and around 100 people's heads snap up and turn to look at him in the back of the church trying to stuff that pager down into the cushion of the pew trying to be more quiet.
 

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I remember when I was young I had an older friend that I attended church with and at the time he was around 17 and was a jr. firefighter. We were in the middle of church service, specifically durng the prayer requests and testimonial prayer and his pager dropped the tone for a call. He had it turned down, but the alarm went off for his station and around 100 people's heads snap up and turn to look at him in the back of the church trying to stuff that pager down into the cushion of the pew trying to be more quiet.
The church I attended many years ago was right next to our fire station. When the pagers went off during a service the minister or choir director would pause to let the half dozen or so guys to get up and jog out the door. They would then ask for a prayer for our police and firefighters.
 

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Very interesting reading your stories.

My parents lived in Wood Dale and saw the flight 191 crash. I fact, my mom's childhood home was/is right there in Wood Dale near O'Hare. As a child she said she could see the passengers in the planes as they landed and if you were on the phone you had to pause for a minute otherwise you couldn't hear. Planes back then were obliviously louder. The old Janet 737-200's were mighty loud over Vegas...



but did you ever receive or get one of these...
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Props to the chain wallet. Biggest chain I had ever seen! LOL! :D While a kid in the '90s some of my friends had wallets like that. As well as the aforementioned pagers. Today kids have smartphones! :eek:

That home address in the snap is interesting...
 
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The church I attended many years ago was right next to our fire station. When the pagers went off during a service the minister or choir director would pause to let the half dozen or so guys to get up and jog out the door. They would then ask for a prayer for our police and firefighters.
Same type of situation. I had a great uncle that was the only doctor in a town of about 800 in Mississippi. I was attending church with my great uncle and his family (mid 70’s) and during a prayer his voice pager went off. He left but got no dirty looks as the town was thankful to have him around.
 

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When I started working for the U.S. Forest Service on the Kaibab National Forest in 1973 we had an all simplex radio system. We had no repeaters and we did not have tactical frequencies in our radios. We had a channel 2 with a repeater input frequency in it, but no repeaters to use that channel. If we were in a blind spot, we would call the nearest lookout tower to relay the traffic to dispatch, the District Ranger Station or to another mobile unit. We rarely got a fire of an acre or more, with most of the big ones being north of the Grand Canyon on the North Kaibab Ranger District.

The closest town and the location of our District R.S. was in Williams, Arizona. One late afternoon lightning started a fire. We could tell right away, after we had the fire knocked down, that we had enough mop up to keep us on the fire probably past midnight. The fire was small enough that we could shine our headlamps to the people on the other side of the fire. Who ever was in charge, called the "Fireboss" in those pre Incident Command System days, walked the perimeter of the fire and told us we were all going to play a joke on the people in Williams who had scanners. The fire wasn't big enough to keep the Fire Control Officer or his assistant on the fire past normal quitting time so we knew we could pull the "big fire ruse" and get away with it. In those days dispatch would not stay on all night for a routine small fire. We started to talk "large fire talk." So out we came with talk like "Sector D, Fireboss" followed by someone answering "Go ahead Fireboss." "We are starting to notice a bright orange glow over near you sector." "Sector D, yeah we have about 2 acres of thick timber torching off right now, it should burn out in the next 20 minutes." And then "Firecamp, Sector 5." "Go ahead Sector 5." We have some very hungry men on the line, where is that dinner you promised at 1930, it's now 2100?" "Fireboss, Sector 1, when is that dozer showing up, the hotshots on our sector are having a hard time keeping it contained up here." We would continue with this type of traffic on and off for a couple of hours. Any personnel that had radios at home, realized the joke as they all knew we had 3/4 of an acre of moderate duff and that we would be on it late into the night. We already had dinner as someone had already gone to KFC and got us buckets of chicken, tubs of mashed potatoes/gravy and additional fixings.

The next morning the Ranger Station started getting calls with citizens worried about the location of "that big fire." Those answering the phone would say we had a late night fire of about 3/4 of an acre that was completely mopped up. When asked by the District Ranger about these calls, we would look at him and say, "it wasn't big enough to use radios, so we don't know what the calls are about, somehow there must of been some skip in town from another forest!" This in spite of being on VHF-High. We really didn't get many calls as very few people in town had scanners then. We figured if we did it too much we would get caught, so I don't remember us doing it very often.

We wouldn't have done is too many years later as overall, discipline got a lot tighter and scanners got more numerous. People get fired for something like that these days.
 

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By the way, sending someone to town for a KFC dinner stopped about 2-3 years after I started. They made us eat those terrible C rations after that. We tried to get the Personnel Officer to eat a ration for lunch, but she didn't and the Forest Supervisor sent out a decision that rations were the only meals allowed for fires. He said we were not allowed to eat rations unless a fire interrupted a normal meal time. We weren't allowed to snack on them. We said, "who would snack on a C ration?"
 

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Very interesting reading your stories.

My parents lived in Wood Dale and saw the flight 191 crash. I fact, my mom's childhood home was/is right there in Wood Dale near O'Hare. As a child she said she could see the passengers in the planes as they landed and if you were on the phone you had to pause for a minute otherwise you couldn't hear. Planes back then were obliviously louder. The old Janet 737-200's were mighty loud over Vegas... While a kid in the '90s some of my friends had wallets like that. As well as the aforementioned pagers. Today kids have smartphones! :eek:
Ok, first off, was all of that real? Second, I am not surprised that kids have smartphones (although Windows Mobile was the first true cellphone in 2000).
 

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Ok, first off, was all of that real? Second, I am not surprised that kids have smartphones (although Windows Mobile was the first true cellphone in 2000).



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The problem was that maintenance used a freaking forklift to jack up the engine into the pylon assembly and stripping the bolts. Plane took off, engine came dismounted and the whole plane rotated around.

If I'm not mistaken, an MD-83 has an issue with the jackscrew that can become stripped if not greased on regular intervals.
 

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Not really related, but here goes anyway. In the late 60s and early 70s we lived a block from our volunteer fire station there was a switch outside the building (built in the 50s) that would set off the siren. Kids being kids, we would ride our bikes by the switch and see if we could turn it on, on the way by, being on a bike, you could disappear pretty fast before the cop on duty or the first firefighter would arrive to see what was going on. There were three switches in town that could activate the siren: one at the power house, one inside the fire hall, and one outside the fire hall. The power house was manned 24/7/365 because we made the electricity for the town and the surrounding area locally, so it also operated as the local dispatch center. One summer morning, we were riding around town, and one of our group decided to hit the siren switch outside the fire hall on the way by, from north to south about that time the city cop appeared in the alley to the south of the firehall and the kid literally ran into the police car which was a 1968 Chevy Impala with one of those right side fender mounted stop lights on it some might remember those lights. Well, the kid knocked the stoplight off the fender, rolled across the hood, and it was game over...
 
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