GRE PSR-500 Post Release Thread

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BOBRR said:
When you select "AUTO" for the mode, does the scanner just use the tabular default listings, like what's shown in the manual, or does it actually determine from the signal characteristics what the correct mode actually should, e.g. FM or NFM ?
It uses the default settings as described in the manual (and the default is never "NFM").
 

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Changine The Default Scanlist Problem ?

Hello:

Trying to change my Default Scanlist from the default of "1" to the FAV scanlist, which according to the manual is accomplished by changine the "1" to a "21" in the GLOB settings.

I can't seem to get the unit to accept "21", though.

It keeps coming back to me with "Value\Format Error" when I press DONE after entering 21.

Any idea what might be wrong ?

Thanks,
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More On My Default Scan List Changing Prob.

Hi,

Just a bit more on my previous post re trying to change the default scanlist to 21.

If I go to HELP (F\Select) the help lines that comes up says that only settable to
number 20, which certainly is commensurate with the fact that I get the error msg if I try to enter 21 (for FAV).

Believe my cpu and other versions are latest that are not Beta's ?
I have:

up App 1 F1.1
DSP App V 1.1
DSP Voc F1.0

The latest Manual does say up to 22 is O.K.

Thoughts ?

Bob
 

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Mine does the same thing if I try to enter it manually. I think you found an error in the manual and the firmware, because I can change it to 21 or 22 with Win500 and PSREdit.
 

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"hex" ?

Hello,

Here's another one, that might be an error also:

When iIscan thru all the items in GLOBAL, on one of the sub-menus, e.g., for the Default Scanlist, when you hit Select, above the F3 soft key, the word "HEX" appears.

I can't believe that they want you to enter something in Hex, can they ?

I can't remember which at the moment, but I believe that there were one or two other sub-menus in GLOBAL that also had "HEX" appearing Selecting.

Are these likely GRE's firmware errors, or... ?

Regards,
Bob
 

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BOBRR said:
Hi,

Just a bit more on my previous post re trying to change the default scanlist to 21.

If I go to HELP (F\Select) the help lines that comes up says that only settable to
number 20, which certainly is commensurate with the fact that I get the error msg if I try to enter 21 (for FAV).

Believe my cpu and other versions are latest that are not Beta's ?
I have:

up App 1 F1.1
DSP App V 1.1
DSP Voc F1.0

The latest Manual does say up to 22 is O.K.

Thoughts ?

Bob

I'll vote for being an owner's manual error. Maybe they need to remove the part about being able to use scanlists 21 and 22 as default. And here's my opinion and educated guess why:

Even though the FAV (21) and Skywarn (22) scanlists might look no different from the rest of the other scanlists, they are technically a different and "exclusive" mode that the scanner is put into in order to use them. And even though you can change it to 21 or 22 with software, when you try to store a new frequency or talkgroup hit on the radio, it puts it in scanlist 20 instead when I tried it.

EDIT: One more thing to support my theory above, when you go to enter a new object, you only get choices 1 thru 20 for scanlists. If you want to make anything part of the Skywarn or Favorites lists, you have to scroll down the list of options and "turn it on" by selecting Yes for the respective "special" scanlist.
 
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BOBRR said:
Hello,

Here's another one, that might be an error also:

When iIscan thru all the items in GLOBAL, on one of the sub-menus, e.g., for the Default Scanlist, when you hit Select, above the F3 soft key, the word "HEX" appears.

I can't believe that they want you to enter something in Hex, can they ?

I can't remember which at the moment, but I believe that there were one or two other sub-menus in GLOBAL that also had "HEX" appearing Selecting.

Are these likely GRE's firmware errors, or... ?

Regards,
Bob

I believe many people, especially the technician and engineering types, prefer to work with Hex numbers. I also believe a lot of the real radios and their software also uses Hex format for many things.

Either way, you have a choice and the more choices the merrier! ;)

I'm still waiting for when scanners come with optional/alternate languages like Chinese, Spanish and Japanese. You know, the places they were most likely built! :lol: ;)
 

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Assigning a Talkgroup to Multiple TSYS Ojbects

Hi Folks,

I am trying to figure out how to assign a series of talkgroups to multiple TSYS objects.

An example of what I am trying to do is program STARS 5th Division locations and all of the talkgroup objects are then associated with that that TSYS object. I have this TSYS object in scan list 1

I want to then create a STARS 1st Division TSYS object and then use the talkgroup objects that are already assigned to STARS 5h Division to the STARS 1st Div. TSYS object. I have this object in scan list 2

When I attempt this using WIN500 I get "STARS 5th Div" Display while scanning scanning scan list 2. So, I think that I am not scanning the 1st Div. frequencies.

When I select the unassigned talkgroups tab I see where the talkgroups from scan list 1 are highlghted and scanlist 2 is selected.

I'm sure there is an answer to this already posted and I am just being lazy and asking the question.

I would also be interested in seeing someones Virginia WIN500 file for a reference.

Thanks in advance.

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kq4z said:
I am trying to figure out how to assign a series of talkgroups to multiple TSYS objects.
Short answer: you can't. A talkgroup is associated with, at most, one TSYS object.

An example of what I am trying to do is program STARS 5th Division locations and all of the talkgroup objects are then associated with that that TSYS object. I have this TSYS object in scan list 1
Quick correction: Your TSYS is not in any scan list (TSYS objects have nothing to do with scan lists). You have a bunch of TGRPs associated with a TSYS, and the TGRPs are in scan lists.

I want to then create a STARS 1st Division TSYS object and then use the talkgroup objects that are already assigned to STARS 5h Division to the STARS 1st Div. TSYS object. I have this object in scan list 2
You'd have to create a new TSYS for "1st division", then copy all of the TGRPs from the "5th Division" TSYS to the new "1st Division" TSYS.
 

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If your "divisions" are like "sites" and you don't have more than 32 control channels total, you could put all of them in the same TSYS and set the TSYS to MultiSite=STAT.
 

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kq4z said:
Umm. Disappointing. I was hoping there was a way to save memory space and use a talkgroup object over and over but guess not.

Thank you for the quick replay and thanks for your wonderful software.

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I think what you want to do is still "do-able". You just have to think in Scanlists terms rather than from a TSYS point of view, which is kind of opposite of the Uniden way. I know that your STARS is very much the same as our ALMR system up here. And it should function the same too. How about just putting all the control channels for your area or region in one TSYS object and then dividing the talkgroups by division, each on it's own scanlist sharing the same TSYS object? That's how the GRE method is based on.

I also use a BCD396T to monitor our system and THAT is very "memory inefficient" for monitoring this type of systems since I have to duplicate talkgroups for each and every site, etc. Like I said above Uniden method seems to be centralized around systems or sites where as the GRE method is centralized around TGs or scanlists.

In short and kind of like DonS already mentioned, just put all the CCs in one TSYS object, split each division's TGs by scanlists and set it to STAT. That's how I have it and it works wonderfully.
 

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stlouisx50 said:
Hello all I have a few questions:

a) Is the USB cable that comes with the PSR500 the same as the one on their site - http://www.greamerica.com/scanner_accessories.html ?

Yes, and also the same as the Radio Shack USB cable.

stlouisx50 said:
b) Does the PSR 500 have the same option as some of the Unidens to monitor trunking by Control Channel Only?

That's the only way the PSR-500/600 will monitor P25 and Motorola systems.

Mike
 

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Can anyone tell me if the GRE500 can monitor the 200Mhz Narrow Band? Or is there any scanner that can? I know there are some places that use this band in the St. Louis area however I have never heard of a scanner that will work to listen to such freqs.
 
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