GRE PSR 800 Pre Release Thread

[eorange]

There's also no limit on the number of sites per trunked system, in case that makes a difference.

Nice. But consider this:

I, and others in NE Ohio who monitor Ohio MARCS, have noticed that we pick up more TG activity when we:

- assign one site per TSYS

instead of

- having one TSYS with multiple sites.

We can't explain it. We don't know why it happens. But we've all noticed the same behavior. We pick up more TG activity when we have 1 TSYS per site. Hence, we end up duplicating TGs across TSYSs.

So this is probably a hard question to answer, but I am wondering if the PSR-800 exhibits the same behavior. If so, then unlimited sites per TSYS may not be an advantage, at least for MARCS listeners.

 

[rdale]

Since you have an unlimited number of TGs, you can just duplicate the TGs multiple times for individual TSYSs. Other scanners have a limit on number of TGs so you can't, so if this "issue" comes up just duplicate the TGs multiple times.

 

[JBuff27]

DonS in post #233 says "... can still belong to Exactly one Trunked System" .

If you have a Trunked System with four sites, different Freqs. for each site, so four scan lists, the talk groups
CAN OR CAN NOT be assiged to each Scan List?

I have a PSR500 and use Win500 and can assign the same talk group to the four scan lists BUT they never appear in the other three scan lists, only in the scan list I enter them in directly. Are they being used in these three or am I doing it wrong.

Really do not understand this disscusion.

Jbuff27

 

[eorange]

JBuff27, the issue is:

Supposed you have a trunked system, consisting of Site A and Site B.

You create TSYS A. You assign TG 8 to TSYS A.
You create TSYS B, which is a different site. Unfortunately, you cannot assign the TG 8 object, from above, to TSYS B. Instead, you have to create another TG 8 object and assign it to TSYS B.

Now you have duplicate TGs to maintain, i.e. if you want to change the alpha tag, then you have to do it for BOTH TG 8 objects - the one assigned to TSYS A and TSYS B.

Since you have an unlimited number of TGs, you can just duplicate the TGs multiple times for individual TSYSs. Other scanners have a limit on number of TGs so you can't, so if this "issue" comes up just duplicate the TGs multiple times.

Having or not having unlimited TGs is not the point.

Duplicating TGs is exactly the point, whether it's 1 TG or 2,000,000 TGs.

If the PSR-500 (and 800?) receives MARCS more reliably using 1 TSYS, then there's no need to duplicate TGs and inherit the associated headaches of doing so.

 

[rdale]

I understand your concern, I'm just saying that if that "problem" still occurs - at least you have a viable option to work around it. And with Win500 copy/n/paste, you can just copy all the TGs from your "main" TSYS right into your other ones without any hassle.

Are you sure it's not a roam setting causing your issue?

 

[iamretired911]

PSR-800 compared to the Home Patrol

It will be something to interesting to read about the PSR-800 compared to the Home Patrol.

 

[Tramagod]

Just search Youtube for GRE PSR-800

 

[rdale]

Just search Youtube for GRE PSR-800

Done, and all I see is the video posted in here last week. If you find it again let us know, I'd be interested.

 

[iamretired911]

I hope these are correct for those asking.
Here are 2 you tube videos about the PSR-800.
YouTube - 20110108_093700-gre_psr-800.MPG
and the other, which has bad audio,
YouTube - EZ SCAN-SD

 

[rdale]

Thanks, the first one was posted last week which I think caused some confusion. Second one is pretty much useless.

 

[JBuff27]

eorange,

Lets see if i really understand what you are saying.

TSYS A is Scan list 1. TSYS B is Scan list 2.

Now in WIN500 I put TG 8 into Scan list 1 and also check 2 as well for TG 8.

You are now telling me that the check in Scan List 2 DOES NOTHING! Even with it checked its really not there and can not be listened to in Scan List 2. Then I have to ask the question of DonS WHY is that option in WIN500. Now I have a lot of check marks for no reason! I have been fouling myself.

JBuff27

 

[DonS]

In the PSR-500, neither trunked systems, sites, nor their frequencies belong to scan lists.

 

[Swipesy]

eorange,

Lets see if i really understand what you are saying.

TSYS A is Scan list 1. TSYS B is Scan list 2.

Now in WIN500 I put TG 8 into Scan list 1 and also check 2 as well for TG 8.

You are now telling me that the check in Scan List 2 DOES NOTHING! Even with it checked its really not there and can not be listened to in Scan List 2. Then I have to ask the question of DonS WHY is that option in WIN500. Now I have a lot of check marks for no reason! I have been fouling myself.

JBuff27

Jbuff27,

That is not what Erik is saying. He is not talking about ScanList. He is talking about Trunked Systems. The Ohio MARCS radio system is made up of numerous towers with numerous, mostly different, control frequencies assigned to each tower. Erik feels that the PSR-500 performs better if each tower has its own System. Since some TalkGroups share different towers within a geograpical area a specific TalkGroup has to be put into each System for best efficiency. Thus if you have 4 Towers = 4 Systems= TalkGroup i.e 12345 being place in the 4 Systems. On a System such as MARCS, just in the Greater Cleveland area there are 12 towers and each TalkGroup would have to be entered 12 times in order to hear the Talkgroup on each tower. Multiply that by 100 TalkGroups and you burn up PSR-500 memory in a hurry.

 

[RadioDaze]

A minor thing, but pretty important to me...

I just went for a walk with my 500 again. I don't like to show it off, so I like it in a coat pocket or on the belt... with earphones. The volume control is so easy on the 500 that it gets knocked up or down - usually down, leading to missed calls. Uniden wins with their stiff knob/push-to-select-volume combo.

Having push buttons for volume control on the 800 make it even more interesting to me after tonight's walk... and I already was getting fairly interested in it. At first glance, when I saw the volume control on the 107, I was ambivalent. Now it matters to me.

Will it come back on at whatever volume it was at when you turned it off?

 

[RoninJoliet]

DonS 's post above is correct, once you program in the "Trunk System" thats it, you can make "DUPE" TG's and assign them to other ScanLists, then you go to the "Glob" menu and scroll to "TGRP IGNORE" and change it to "NO", i can then hear the duplicate TG's on other ScanLists from my programmed "Trunk System.....So on the ILL-Digital Starcom i seperate the "Tollway units from the ISP Districts....

 

[dxradio2003]

FCC approval???

Hi,

Any word on when the PSR-800 will be FCC approved? I've tried checking the FCC website but have come up with nothing. I know GRE thought the scanner would be on sale sometime during the first quarter.

Thanks,

 

[DaveIN]

It appears that the supplied antenna is the same "short" antenna that is supplied with the GRE PSR700 (and RadioShack-iScan Pro-107). Too bad the GRE P/N: 100-001 (AKA RS800MHz antenna #20-283) isn't supplied with the PSR800.

 

[krokus]

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8530/5.0.0.973 Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/105)

Why would the 800 MHz antenna come with it? It's not an 800 MHz only scanner.

 

[DaveIN]

I'm only referencing the antenna as being available as the RS800MHz antenna because it is labeled as such by RadioShack. I use this antenna on all of my handhelds and find that it works on multiple bands besides 800MHz for local and DX stations. This antenna would be a much better choice than the included antenna, IMHO and is the best available from GRE. The PSR500 or PSR301 (GRE P/N:100-03)[FONT=&quot][/FONT] antenna would even be a better choice, but not all antennas are the answer to all situations.

Now, back to the PSR800...

 

[scannerfreak]

Now, back to the PSR800...

Did we ever leave? You brought up the antenna, someone responded, and then you say "Now, back to the PSR800". Am I missing something here?

I agree with krokus, it wouldn't make sense to include the 800 MHz antenna over regular antenna. There are many non 800 MHz trunked systems.