handheld CB pin broken off in the BNC connector... is drilling my only option?

[dave3825]

Looking at your pics, it sure looks like half the pin still remains, which would be why you needed pliers to remove the antenna you tried. If it were me, I would get a good dental pic set and gently try to wedge and pull the broken pin out. 3rd one in from left looks like a good candidate. Or I would get the micro needle nose pliers from amazon and try those. I also would not attempt to try any other antenna on that connecter until all of the broken pin is removed. All that is going to do is force the broken pin inside further making it harder to remove.

Amazon.com

Amazon.com

 

[PACNWDude]

I have had BNC connector pins get stuck in the antenna connectors for Harris AN/PRC-117 series multiband radios as well (numerous times). What worked for me was to take a tinned wire that was warmed up with a soldering iron, and sticking that into the BNC pin stuck into the female connector. Has worked every time to get that broken pin out.....no need to replace the female BNC connector. Just don't leave that hot wire inside the pin and connector for too long....you want it warm enough to make contact with the pin, and yank it out of the connector.

 

[niceguy71]

I have had BNC connector pins get stuck in the antenna connectors for Harris AN/PRC-117 series multiband radios as well (numerous times). What worked for me was to take a tinned wire that was warmed up with a soldering iron, and sticking that into the BNC pin stuck into the female connector. Has worked every time to get that broken pin out.....no need to replace the female BNC connector. Just don't leave that hot wire inside the pin and connector for too long....you want it warm enough to make contact with the pin, and yank it out of the connector.

That's brilliant!!! Probably would have worked too but I already ruined it with Drill ... I'll remember for the next time

 

[Lauri-CoyoteFrostbite]

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"............I'll remember for the next time..................."


Oh Sweet Mary !---- A next time !!



Lets hope that won't happen again

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On the other hand I would be concerned that it is not transmitting anything to a near by radio--- that seems ominous; like maybe
"Something (more) is rotten in the state of Denmark."


I hate to say it, but does the word "Brick" mean anything--- ?



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[TomLine]

Superglue on the tip of a same size pin? Wait 5, then yank it out. When it's completely destroyed, just replace the connector.

 

[wtp]

and then everything can be glued together and come out in one piece !

 

[G7RUX]

I've bought several handheld CB's off e-bay and none of them seem to work.. getting sick of it... anyway I saw a review and range test on You Tube Tune of the Midland 75-810 what a fantastic radio so I bought one off E-bay with the rubber ducky antenna it worked great all around the neighborhood. I then went to put on the Cobra HA-TA long range antenna but it would not go one.. I tried forcing it but now way was it going on.... so I tried my 51" Hyshikra long range antenna and same thing... looking in the Midland 75-810 factory ducky antenna I see just a white plastic hole that connects to the BCN connector and in the BNC connector it looks like a solid center??? I think the pin from the antenna is in the BNC connector.... any idea's how to get it out??.... I'm not that handy to pull the whole thing apart and replace the BNC connector and this thing is so small I can't imagine getting this thing apart.... before I drill it, I thought I would ask if anyone else had this problem?? and how did you fix it

Use a tiny bit of superglue on the end of a toothpick, glue it to the back of the broken pin and pull it out of the connector. This has worked for me when presented with the same issue.
BNC connectors are pretty good but wobbling antennas around on the top of a handheld can do this…it’s one of the reasons why lots of manufacturers have switched to SMA.

 

[niceguy71]

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"............I'll remember for the next time..................."


Oh Sweet Mary !---- A next time !!

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Lets hope that won't happen again

___________________________________________________________________________________________________________

On the other hand I would be concerned that it is not transmitting anything to a near by radio--- that seems ominous; like maybe
"Something (more) is rotten in the state of Denmark."


I hate to say it, but does the word "Brick" mean anything--- ?



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I've looked for one of these radio's for a long time... finally got it on e-bay it came with the factory rubber duckie antenna... took the dog for a 1 mile walk maybe closer to two miles and it worked fantastic... clear as a bell both ways... next day I said I think I can get 5 miles with the long range antenna and that's when I found out the rubber duckies pin was broken inside..... love the radio... not going to put the brick in the trash just yet... let me get a hammer and open this thing up and take a look

( kidding about the hammer)

 

[wtp]

hammers are for nailing them closed...

 

[DaveC1964]

I've looked for one of these radio's for a long time... finally got it on e-bay it came with the factory rubber duckie antenna... took the dog for a 1 mile walk maybe closer to two miles and it worked fantastic... clear as a bell both ways... next day I said I think I can get 5 miles with the long range antenna and that's when I found out the rubber duckies pin was broken inside..... love the radio... not going to put the brick in the trash just yet... let me get a hammer and open this thing up and take a look

( kidding about the hammer)

If you open it you may be lucky if it is a through hole then you can just poke out the broken piece with a pin. I am guessing it is a blind hole so water doesn't get in but who knows.

 

[mmckenna]

hammers are for nailing them closed...

Hammers have one other use in the radio industry:

 

[niceguy71]

Hammers have one other use in the radio industry:

love it!

 

[mmckenna]

love it!

The 911 PSAP manager periodically posts that on my Facebook page, as a reminder.

 

[niceguy71]

I got the radio apart it wasn't too bad but that's only because I found an on line step by step info. ( the screws were pretty hidden) when I drilled it or pushed another antenna on it one or the other....must have pushed the pin in the BNC connector into the radio it was into the radio like 1/2 inch... it broke off the antenna connection wire and touched some electrical thing ( industry term) and bent a couple do-dads ... I straightened the do-dads and now I'm looking for the correct BNC connector and I'll solder it in and cross my fingers.......
in the old days lots of radio shops that would be happy to do it for me.... now I can't even find one that will work on it unless I bought it from them... what a world

 

[mmckenna]

and I'll solder it in and cross my fingers.......

Yeah, don't cross your fingers and then solder, they might get stuck that way.

in the old days lots of radio shops that would be happy to do it for me.... now I can't even find one that will work on it unless I bought it from them... what a world

True. With a few notable exceptions, we live in a throw away society. Some are awfully proud of being able to throw away a $25 Chinese radio and just buy a new one. Zero skill involved in that.

When it really comes down to it, there a whole lot of satisfaction in being able to repair it yourself.

 

[wtp]

push it through was my call in post #17 !

 

[niceguy71]

ok I move a little slow... it took me 1 year and two months but I fixed my brick!
I had the radio all in pieces in a plastic bag with all the screws labeled sitting on my work bench for over a year and was tired of looking at it. my old soldering iron just never seemed to get the job done any more... so I bought one on Amazon that does 100 watts... I think my old one from 40 years ago was 15 watts.
the wire from the BNC connector was no longer connected I must have drilled it out or broken it.
the new BNC connector was 1/4 longer.... so I had to force that black???? capacitor? black thing to the side... that's what I had originally thought I broke when I was trying to push the pin out..... I can't seem to see under it to see if it's still connected but I figured if it works it works and if not in the trash it goes....
it took me 1/2 to get that stupid BNC connector nut started and threaded up tight.... I had to hold the metal frame. the BNC connector and the soldered washed and squeeze it all together and still had no way to spin the nut with my fingers.

my old antenna wire used to go into the BNC connector... but that is now pushed up against the black thing and the wire is too short to get in there.... so I pushed the wire to the side of the BNC connector made a big glob of solder and let it run down the wire.... put it all together and it works!
great little radio glad I was able to save it!

 

[niceguy71]

seeing this post was originally about repairing a radio I thought I would ask another question.

this is TOO LONG OF A POST..... don't bother to read it unless you too have and like the TRC 207 handheld CB radio. or you really have no life.
you have been warned.

I had a couple Radio Shack handhelds when I was a kid that I wanted to talk all around the town in the worst way...... I worked all summer mowing lawns, waxing cars, weeding gardens..... whatever I could, to buy a Radio Shack handheld CB.. it was $19.99..... turned out it was a one watt input 1/2 watt output with one channel 14 crystal in it..... I couldn't talk to anyone!!!... so the next summer I worked all year again and bought the two watt radio shack handheld ( one watt output) for $29.99 and again could not talk to anyone!!!
the next year I really busted my ass worked night and day wasted the whole summer just to get a handheld CB.... I got the 3 watt TRC handheld ( 1.5 watts output ) one channel 14 crystal in it..... it was $39.99 a HUGE AMOUNT for a teenager back then. all three of these radio's had 4 feet tall antenna's........ and again I could not get anyone.... I figured being stuck on channel 14 didn't help.
my Mother had her brother the truck driver come over so I could talk to him and make sure it worked. he told me I really needed a 4 watt output radio and 40 channels to find someone to talk with... he drove down our long 900 foot farm driveway to get to the main street..... I was able to talk to him until he got about 100 feet from the main road!!!! so I got about 800 feet!!!!
so I said THAT"S IT!!!! no more stupid radios!!! ( but I still had the radio bug in me)
when I got a real job at minimum wage $3.25 an hour ( a 40 hour, weeks pay after taxes was about $70.00.... I went to Radio Shack and got a 4 watt handheld CB that had 40 channels!!! it was $99.99
I figured I got a real deal radio now!
and I would be able to talk around the town... NOPE! ... I was lucky to get a 1/2 mile out of it... it had a brand new to Radio Shack, fancy Dancy, new innovation the new rubber ducky antenna!!!! Radio Shack made a big deal about this new type antenna back then.
well I learned the Rubber Ducky SUCKED! I missed the telescoping antenna's
so for the next 35 years I tried to get a different longer antenna for it.
it is only a one wire antenna????? most antenna's have two wires... but in the picture you can see it is only solid stud.... I tried to get a bolt that would go into that hole.. it's an 8MM but it's got a weird thread and NOTHING screws into it... ( I've spent a lot of time at hardware stores) I thought I could somehow bolt a telescoping antenna on it.... I have read articles on it for years about other people looking for some kind of adapter to allow a better antenna.... but it seems TRC made this very different...... most antenna's are 50 Ohms ... not this one??? so Radio Shack made sure no one would use anything other than their antenna on it. ........ many people have tried other ways of getting a different antenna on the connection and it usually burns out the radio???
it has become my obsession I have tried everything... TRUST ME they do not make any kind of adapter for it... I have a Maxon CB that has a similar antenna, but they do make an adapter for that one, and I have it, it's a Motorola MX to BNC Antenna adapter for Motorola Maxon ICOM Radios... but it doesn't come close to fitting the TRC 207..... the Maxon has two wires to it, so the adapter connects in two places,
the center hole and the outer ring.... my TRC 207 is all one piece.
so I opened up my TRC 207 today after 35 years and was going to change the weird fitting for a BNC connector.... PLENTY OF ROOM!!!!! but the Auxiliary antenna connector in the side, is 50 ohms and is wired to a different part of the board? ... the one single wire that goes to the weird connector has a lot of electronic pieces in line with it and goes to a completely different part of the board?
I was going to cut that out and solder to the two wires to the Auxiliary antenna connection on the board... but I found using my multimeter that when you plug an Auxiliary antenna jack into it.... it disconnects the weird fitting....... well, if I solder it on the board, it will not be disconnecting all that weird wiring for the weird antenna connection... meaning both would be used at the same time??? probably causing trouble.
so I made a piece that I can attach to the side of the radio, and plug into the Auxiliary port and it allows me to use the GREAT HYS 51 inch telescoping antenna... I find I get over 4 miles range with that great antenna.... looks ugly and not what I wanted... but if it works and I can get 4 miles range I'll play with it..... then another day I may buy a cheap TRC 207 off E-bay to solder a BNC connector on and if it burns it out.... it was only an experiment any way..... I don't want to experiment on the radio that I had to work two weeks scrubbing floors to get... as it works really nice! I always like how well it receives and my voice always sounds clean and clear on it... it also shuts off the display to save battery life after 3 seconds... I always thought it was a nice radio, if it wasn't for that damn duck antenna.
so any thoughts about just cutting out the old antenna wiring ( leaving it connected to the board) and soldering to the board where the Auxiliary antenna connector is????

 

[niceguy71]

seeing this post was originally about repairing a radio I thought I would ask another question.

this is TOO LONG OF A POST..... don't bother to read it unless you too have and like the TRC 207 handheld CB radio. or you really have no life.
you have been warned.

I had a couple Radio Shack handhelds when I was a kid that I wanted to talk all around the town in the worst way...... I worked all summer mowing lawns, waxing cars, weeding gardens..... whatever I could, to buy a Radio Shack handheld CB.. it was $19.99..... turned out it was a one watt input 1/2 watt output with one channel 14 crystal in it..... I couldn't talk to anyone!!!... so the next summer I worked all year again and bought the two watt radio shack handheld ( one watt output) for $29.99 and again could not talk to anyone!!!
the next year I really busted my ass worked night and day wasted the whole summer just to get a handheld CB.... I got the 3 watt TRC handheld ( 1.5 watts output ) one channel 14 crystal in it..... it was $39.99 a HUGE AMOUNT for a teenager back then. all three of these radio's had 4 feet tall antenna's........ and again I could not get anyone.... I figured being stuck on channel 14 didn't help.
my Mother had her brother the truck driver come over so I could talk to him and make sure it worked. he told me I really needed a 4 watt output radio and 40 channels to find someone to talk with... he drove down our long 900 foot farm driveway to get to the main street..... I was able to talk to him until he got about 100 feet from the main road!!!! so I got about 800 feet!!!!
so I said THAT"S IT!!!! no more stupid radios!!! ( but I still had the radio bug in me)
when I got a real job at minimum wage $3.25 an hour ( a 40 hour, weeks pay after taxes was about $70.00.... I went to Radio Shack and got a 4 watt handheld CB that had 40 channels!!! it was $99.99
I figured I got a real deal radio now!
and I would be able to talk around the town... NOPE! ... I was lucky to get a 1/2 mile out of it... it had a brand new to Radio Shack, fancy Dancy, new innovation the new rubber ducky antenna!!!! Radio Shack made a big deal about this new type antenna back then.
well I learned the Rubber Ducky SUCKED! I missed the telescoping antenna's
so for the next 35 years I tried to get a different longer antenna for it.
it is only a one wire antenna????? most antenna's have two wires... but in the picture you can see it is only solid stud.... I tried to get a bolt that would go into that hole.. it's an 8MM but it's got a weird thread and NOTHING screws into it... ( I've spent a lot of time at hardware stores) I thought I could somehow bolt a telescoping antenna on it.... I have read articles on it for years about other people looking for some kind of adapter to allow a better antenna.... but it seems TRC made this very different...... most antenna's are 50 Ohms ... not this one??? so Radio Shack made sure no one would use anything other than their antenna on it. ........ many people have tried other ways of getting a different antenna on the connection and it usually burns out the radio???
it has become my obsession I have tried everything... TRUST ME they do not make any kind of adapter for it... I have a Maxon CB that has a similar antenna, but they do make an adapter for that one, and I have it, it's a Motorola MX to BNC Antenna adapter for Motorola Maxon ICOM Radios... but it doesn't come close to fitting the TRC 207..... the Maxon has two wires to it, so the adapter connects in two places,
the center hole and the outer ring.... my TRC 207 is all one piece.
so I opened up my TRC 207 today after 35 years and was going to change the weird fitting for a BNC connector.... PLENTY OF ROOM!!!!! but the Auxiliary antenna connector in the side, is 50 ohms and is wired to a different part of the board? ... the one single wire that goes to the weird connector has a lot of electronic pieces in line with it and goes to a completely different part of the board?
I was going to cut that out and solder to the two wires to the Auxiliary antenna connection on the board... but I found using my multimeter that when you plug an Auxiliary antenna jack into it.... it disconnects the weird fitting....... well, if I solder it on the board, it will not be disconnecting all that weird wiring for the weird antenna connection... meaning both would be used at the same time??? probably causing trouble.
so I made a piece that I can attach to the side of the radio, and plug into the Auxiliary port and it allows me to use the GREAT HYS 51 inch telescoping antenna... I find I get over 4 miles range with that great antenna.... looks ugly and not what I wanted... but if it works and I can get 4 miles range I'll play with it..... then another day I may buy a cheap TRC 207 off E-bay to solder a BNC connector on and if it burns it out.... it was only an experiment any way..... I don't want to experiment on the radio that I had to work two weeks scrubbing floors to get... as it works really nice! I always like how well it receives and my voice always sounds clean and clear on it... it also shuts off the display to save battery life after 3 seconds... I always thought it was a nice radio, if it wasn't for that damn duck antenna.
so any thoughts about just cutting out the old antenna wiring ( leaving it connected to the board) and soldering to the board where the Auxiliary antenna connector is????

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

ok I move a little slow... it took me 1 year and two months but I fixed my brick!
I had the radio all in pieces in a plastic bag with all the screws labeled sitting on my work bench for over a year and was tired of looking at it. my old soldering iron just never seemed to get the job done any more... so I bought one on Amazon that does 100 watts... I think my old one from 40 years ago was 15 watts.
the wire from the BNC connector was no longer connected I must have drilled it out or broken it.
the new BNC connector was 1/4 longer.... so I had to force that black???? capacitor? black thing to the side... that's what I had originally thought I broke when I was trying to push the pin out..... I can't seem to see under it to see if it's still connected but I figured if it works it works and if not in the trash it goes....
it took me 1/2 to get that stupid BNC connector nut started and threaded up tight.... I had to hold the metal frame. the BNC connector and the soldered washed and squeeze it all together and still had no way to spin the nut with my fingers.

my old antenna wire used to go into the BNC connector... but that is now pushed up against the black thing and the wire is too short to get in there.... so I pushed the wire to the side of the BNC connector made a big glob of solder and let it run down the wire.... put it all together and it works!
great little radio glad I was able to save it!

Looks like it was never broken. Having it apart for a year is a good way to forget how it went together. I have had the drivers side door of my spare Expedition apart for several months (power window regulator) for months. When it came time to put it together, my muscle memory forgot how to position the door card and the interior door handle . Both required putting screws in at weird angles known only to factory robots. The job is yet unfinished a month longer because of severe exasperation and perspiration, 101 degree weather.