APX Harris P25 phase 1 system on a Motorola radio APX1000?

[obstac]

Is it possible to program a Harris P25 phase 1 trunked system on motorola APX 1000 ?

we had tried to configure all the config , the radio received the signal from trunking and when we tried to PTT from Motorola APX 1000, harris radio XL-150PI received feedback (radio ID show), but no audio at all and disconnected .

General Tab :

System Type : ASTRO 25
Coverage Type : Smartzone & OmniLink
Home WACN ID : 000A
System ID : 000A
Control Channel : We add all the frequency
ASTRO 25 Channel ID : - Channel Type : FDMA , Transmit Offset : -45 Mhz, Channel Spacing: 6.25 Khz, Base Freq : 851.00625 Mhz
Mototorola Proprietary Feature : Uncheck
Validate NAC Agains System ID : Uncheck
WUID Validity Support : Uncheck
Digital Modulator Type : CQPSK

is there any configuration that i miss ? thanks

 

[obstac]

when we tried to PTT from harris radio, no feedback at all from Motorola APX1000

 

[Asunakiyori]

I could be wrong... but im looking over your data.. and im confuses as why your Wacn matches your System ID.... Are your Iden tables the same aswell?

 

[obstac]

I could be wrong... but im looking over your data.. and im confuses as why your Wacn matches your System ID.... Are your Iden tables the same aswell?

Hi, thanks for reply . on harris p25 trunk , from l3harris himself we have to input WACN and system ID are same as well .

yes, iden tables are same both motorola and harris .

i read some thread about p25 harris to XTS/APX 6k . when we tried to set WACN to BEE00 . it shows out of range.

 

[slicerwizard]

im confuses as why your Wacn matches your System ID

Isn't that how Harris rolls?

 

[GTR8000]

Isn't that how Harris rolls?

No, not really. You might be thinking of the RFSS matching the SiteID in most cases. 041-041, 081-081, etc. but the WACN and SysID are normally unique from one another.

 

[Asunakiyori]

No, not really. You might be thinking of the RFSS matching the SiteID in most cases. 041-041, 081-081, etc. but the WACN and SysID are normally unique from one another.

So I may be semi right? Score!

 

[slicerwizard]

No, not really. You might be thinking of the RFSS matching the SiteID in most cases. 041-041, 081-081, etc. but the WACN and SysID are normally unique from one another.

Ok, guess I was thinking of this one:

P25 00001.001 "London PS"

 

[obstac]

No, not really. You might be thinking of the RFSS matching the SiteID in most cases. 041-041, 081-081, etc. but the WACN and SysID are normally unique from one another.

it's coincidence we got them. we configure harris radio to p25 trunked , using same WACN and SysID . it's work fine .

is there any config that i miss ? the IDEN is same frequency same as we configure harris radio . thanks before

 

[chrismol1]

we had tried to configure all the config , the radio received the signal from trunking and when we tried to PTT from Motorola APX 1000, harris radio XL-150PI received feedback (radio ID show), but no audio at all and disconnected .

sounds similar to a channel ID issue, talkgroup change/radio ID shows but no audio

when we tried to PTT from harris radio, no feedback at all from Motorola APX1000

so the apx can make the harris change to its talkgroup and no audio but the harris doing the same results in nothing at all on the apx. strange

 

[obstac]

sounds similar to a channel ID issue, talkgroup change/radio ID shows but no audio

so the apx can make the harris change to its talkgroup and no audio but the harris doing the same results in nothing at all on the apx. strange

Yes , on harris radio just showed ID and disconnected although we were still pressing ptt from apx1000 .

I put channel ID same as we program harris radio because no issue at all when we try it from harris radio to trunk .

Or maybe its WACN key issue ? Because i got the syskey(load software key) from my tim , but i have not checked that its just syskey or not WACN key included .

 

[Asunakiyori]

im looking at your system.... WACN 148DE so theres one of your issues

 

[KevinC]

im looking at your system.... WACN 148DE so theres one of your issues

How are you "looking" at the OP's system?

 

[Asunakiyori]

How are you "looking" at the OP's system?

the RR data base, the system ID popped up in search

 

[KevinC]

the RR data base, the system ID popped up in searchView attachment 166062

Odd, I see 114 systems with 00A as the system ID. Or did I miss the OP posting a WACN of 148DE?

 

[Asunakiyori]

Odd, I see 114 systems with 00A as the system ID. Or did I miss the OP posting a WACN of 148DE?

strange i only saw one then i could be totally going down the wrong ally.

I put in 000A as the OP listed and that returned one as 00A says to broad

 

[KevinC]

Yes , on harris radio just showed ID and disconnected although we were still pressing ptt from apx1000 .

I put channel ID same as we program harris radio because no issue at all when we try it from harris radio to trunk .

Or maybe its WACN key issue ? Because i got the syskey(load software key) from my tim , but i have not checked that its just syskey or not WACN key included .

That sounds like the Motorola is transmitting on the wrong frequency. Are you sure the IDEN is EXACTLY the same in both radios?

 

[obstac]

That sounds like the Motorola is transmitting on the wrong frequency. Are you sure the IDEN is EXACTLY the same in both radios?

Hi , we got everything working . My bad, It was because on our trunk , the default is half rate TDMA , and our apx1000 just works on full rate FDMA , so we change to FDMA . Its work . And we change exactly IDEN freq to apx1000 and its work

We set coverage type as Smartzone,
System ID same as WACN ID .

Sorry my dumb question, when we tried different IDEN freq from harris radio lets say 851.00625 , trunked iden is 851.01250 . Why is harris radio to trunked harris works but motorola has no audio at all ?

 

[obstac]

im looking at your system.... WACN 148DE so theres one of your issues

Hi , from harris itself , we have to set same System ID and WACN id . Because we try on harris radio to trunked , it works

 

[Asunakiyori]

right right i forgot it was a harris system