HARTFORD

[nhfdcadet]

If I recall, there was discussion with West Hartford back when they were setting up their system. Since one of West Hartford's licensed sites is next to Hartford's at the top of Hartford Insurance, the coverage could be the same with some changes (I think they have a directional gain antenna at that site now).
Saving taxpayer money is not a priority in many, many cities and towns in CT. Although Hartford is including the schools, smart move as the majority of tax money goes to them anyway.

chris

My own personal opinion, it wouldnt be a bad idea for them to combine forces. Heck, they could even get wethersfield on board with it too, theoretically. Another harris p25 system.
At a minimum, roaming would be a plus, just for mutual aid purposes, or areas of poor coverage from one, might be filled in by the other.
I haven't looked into hartford's plan at all though, so I don't know what the intent for the system is, if it is going to include fire or not, etc.
I'm only speculating something that I think would work (I doubt itd be easy to convince a town to give up total control of their system)

 

[nhfdcadet]

Back in the day...as in late 70s, a rather costly study was conducted to consolidate dispatch services and the like between West Haven, Orange and Milford. Additionally in the same time period, a federally funded study was prepared with the recommendation that the Ansonia, Derby, Seymour and Naugatuck public services and dispatch be unified and consolidated into the "Birmingham District". So what happened with either study and recommendations made: Nothing. Reason: No political entity wanted to give up control their law enforcement fiefdom.
Sounds silly, but it's true. Been there and seen that. Not to cast aspersions, the volunteers were the loudest and I daresay, most obnoxious opponents of any consolidation.

its even sillier that Ansonia, Derby and Seymour all share fire and ems dispatch, and naugatuck EMS as well, but each has their own police dispatch, and naugatuck has their own fire dispatch.
Quite a disservice to the taxpayers in my opinion.

 

[PD47JD]

its even sillier that Ansonia, Derby and Seymour all share fire and ems dispatch, and naugatuck EMS as well, but each has their own police dispatch, and naugatuck has their own fire dispatch.
Quite a disservice to the taxpayers in my opinion.

No one wants to give up their slice of the pie...and that's the bottom line.

 

[garys]

This is why almost every one of the 351 cities and towns in MA has it's own PD and FD. Some towns have more than one FD.

Back in the day...as in late 70s, a rather costly study was conducted to consolidate dispatch services and the like between West Haven, Orange and Milford. Additionally in the same time period, a federally funded study was prepared with the recommendation that the Ansonia, Derby, Seymour and Naugatuck public services and dispatch be unified and consolidated into the "Birmingham District". So what happened with either study and recommendations made: Nothing. Reason: No political entity wanted to give up control their law enforcement fiefdom.
Sounds silly, but it's true. Been there and seen that. Not to cast aspersions, the volunteers were the loudest and I daresay, most obnoxious opponents of any consolidation. As to Ct Land Mobile Radio Network (CLMRN) , notwithstanding redundancies built into the system, there will be a day when it crashes for any number of reasons, internal or external. What happens then?

 

[nhfdcadet]

This is why almost every one of the 351 cities and towns in MA has it's own PD and FD. Some towns have more than one FD.

Just like CT, 169 towns, over 300 fire departments. Crazy.

 

[APX7500X2]

Back in the day...as in late 70s, a rather costly study was conducted to consolidate dispatch services and the like between West Haven, Orange and Milford. Additionally in the same time period, a federally funded study was prepared with the recommendation that the Ansonia, Derby, Seymour and Naugatuck public services and dispatch be unified and consolidated into the "Birmingham District". So what happened with either study and recommendations made: Nothing. Reason: No political entity wanted to give up control their law enforcement fiefdom.
Sounds silly, but it's true. Been there and seen that. Not to cast aspersions, the volunteers were the loudest and I daresay, most obnoxious opponents of any consolidation. As to Ct Land Mobile Radio Network (CLMRN) , notwithstanding redundancies built into the system, there will be a day when it crashes for any number of reasons, internal or external. What happens then?

Well at least Ansonia, Derby, Seymour, Oxford, Beacon Falls & Bethany Fire & Ems are all Dispatched by the same place, makes the Valley Fire and Ems better equipped to work together...And I said Equipped..Not Staffed

 

[nhfdcadet]

Well at least Ansonia, Derby, Seymour, Oxford, Beacon Falls & Bethany Fire & Ems are all Dispatched by the same place, makes the Valley Fire and Ems better equipped to work together...And I said Equipped..Not Staffed

the 911 calls still get routed through the PD in 3 of those towns though, sometimes they arent even sent over to fire/ems, pd will just call and provide little to no information.
I know there was chatter about Ansonia making a new regional center that was supposed to consolidate the valley, but obviously hasnt come to fruition.

 

[izzyj4]

Well at least Ansonia, Derby, Seymour, Oxford, Beacon Falls & Bethany Fire & Ems are all Dispatched by the same place, makes the Valley Fire and Ems better equipped to work together...And I said Equipped..Not Staffed

Where I used to work, we dispatched all the towns for the Valley. Even before that we dispatched for several other agencies, Madison EMS was one of them. But then again, the powers that be dismantled a region dispatch system that was tone of the forerunners (in my opinion) how a regional system should work. Just like VS, QV, TN and the old KX. Why did C-MED New Haven and KX go bye-bye? Funding!!! And that is why regionalization will never happen on the state level, because no one wants to fund it.

Yes NWPS does a great job for us, but also there are limitations they face.

the 911 calls still get routed through the PD in 3 of those towns though, sometimes they arent even sent over to fire/ems, pd will just call and provide little to no information.
I know there was chatter about Ansonia making a new regional center that was supposed to consolidate the valley, but obviously hasnt come to fruition.

The majority of the State's PSAPs (Public Safety Answering Points) are police departments. And they receive on average more calls for police than for Fire / EMS. You will not see them give that up. Plus the public will have an adverse reaction as crazy as it may sound. Its the whole "wait your not in my town on the phone" hang up.

The chatter for setting up a regional center in Ansonia was just that. The idea was a great one and was around back when I was at C-Med NH originally. There was talk about a "branch office" so to speak, but that dies out quickly. The most recent talk was from someone who was in public safety in the area and was looking for something to replace C-MED NH after it was shut down. It could have worked but all that was chatter and again where is the funding coming from.