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Help!!! Info on SABER III and Systems SABER III (DES-XL)

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I need some info on my 2 newest radios, Motorola SABER III and Systems SABER III.
Any and all is very much appreciated and any websites with more info too please and thanks! I have the VHF Service Manual coming as well.:roll:
 

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Any info as to how can you program without software??

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What kind of info do you need?? I've been into the Saber/Systems Saber/Astro Saber series for 15 years.

check out www.batlabs.com
I would like to know what I can do to program it without software, Can you erase memories without software?? Did they ever fix software to be used with a newer computer?? I went to www.batlabs.com and www.repeater-builder.com and I am learning some stuff about the radio, But I would like to know as much as I can until I get my SABER books here and then I still would like to know more about these SABER/Systems SABER
 

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You can only program the radio with the RSS and it has to be used on a slower computer,I use an IBM thinkpad 486 which is the recommended platform for the older DOS based RSS. You may be able to get it to run on a faster computer but you should always run it in a real dos enviornment or you stand a good chance of codeplug corrution during read/write.
 

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Thanks So Much For Your Assistance

10-95 said:
You can only program the radio with the RSS and it has to be used on a slower computer,I use an IBM thinkpad 486 which is the recommended platform for the older DOS based RSS. You may be able to get it to run on a faster computer but you should always run it in a real dos enviornment or you stand a good chance of codeplug corrution during read/write.
In others words, It might become a $300 Brick paperweight! Laughs. Thanks for your help, Sir.
 

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Mustn't forget to budget cash for the RIB and cables, too.
I second the Astro Saber recommendation. AS2 & 3's have really come down in price lately. These make awesome scanners, too. I've listening to Chicago Police right now.

If you like, I could program a zone of channels for you Saber/SysSaber. I remember when I first got into Mot radios, I bought a Saber that sat uselessly for a few months while I gathered up the cables RIB and RSS. Just pay shipping.
 

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JnglMassiv said:
Mustn't forget to budget cash for the RIB and cables, too.
I second the Astro Saber recommendation. AS2 & 3's have really come down in price lately. These make awesome scanners, too. I've listening to Chicago Police right now.

If you like, I could program a zone of channels for you Saber/SysSaber. I remember when I first got into Mot radios, I bought a Saber that sat uselessly for a few months while I gathered up the cables RIB and RSS. Just pay shipping.
Thanks, I appreciate the offer and I might take you up on it too. I am waiting on Moto to call back with authorization for the Systems SABER III RSS and I do have the "toys" coming for the radios also. (RIB and cables and manuals).
 

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KE4NYV said:
Find yourself an ASTRO Saber III (preferably P25/IMBE) and you can use the Windows ASTRO Saber software.
Astro SABER III okay and where do I get the RSS from Motorola also ?? I will look into it most definitly as I didnt realize the in-depth nature of SABER/SysSABER III.:lol:
 

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I am finally registered with Moto!!! WHOAAA!!!

Hey,
I thank all of y'all for the help and I have acuired an Astro SABER as well, I also registered and licensed to buy my RSS (Finally) Many and much thanks to the lovely ladies at Hello Moto for all their assistance, I will be able to get online and order my software as of Friday (Fingers Crossed!!). I have invetsed so much time and GLOBS of money in this radios, That maybe I should become a SABER Tech !!! Laughs :D
 

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KE4ASQ said:
I have invetsed so much time and GLOBS of money in this radios, That maybe I should become a SABER Tech !!!

Not yet. Now you need to go to the batboard and read, re-read, and read some more of the saber info on there. Then you'll have a better understanding of what's involved.

For starters, you should think of the Saber, Systems Saber, and the Astro Saber as three different radios that share some common parts. The biggest hurdle is the different software needed.
 

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Thanks, Grog

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Not yet. Now you need to go to the batboard and read, re-read, and read some more of the saber info on there. Then you'll have a better understanding of what's involved.

For starters, you should think of the Saber, Systems Saber, and the Astro Saber as three different radios that share some common parts. The biggest hurdle is the different software needed.
Yeah I have been and it seems like everytime I read something new, Laughs.
I have recieved my Service Manual and my Astro SABER Instruction manual and Am awaiting my Systems SABER Instruction and Theory/Maintenence Manual.
 

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I have quite a few things on PDF if you need anything else. I also have the RSS guide for the Saber (just the guide :wink: )
 

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I have quite a few things on PDF if you need anything else. I also have the RSS guide for the Saber (just the guide :wink: )
I appreciate that Grog and I will let you know, I am having fun learning about these radios and they have far more features then Normal Ham radios do! I want to learn more about the DES-XL Encryption. :eek:
 

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They're great radios indeed. I've owned and used regualr Sabers, sys. Sabers, and Astro Sabers - all great radios. Can't beat 'em. If you've got a Keyloader, or know someone who does, you can talk XL sexy, too! :)
 

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Help!!! Info on SABER III and Systems SABER III

Sorry, based on the above info I thought that I was in the right forum.

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