Help me find my perfect portable ham radio

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ElroyJetson

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It's not xenophobia. I don't FEAR the Chinese...or anybody. But I'm extremely, dyed-in-the-wool anti-communist and China has a fully communist form of government and they have been building their military. Why would they be doing that, unless they had plans to use it?

This has nothing to do with race and everything to do with being a devoted enemy of communism and socialism.

The Cold War never ended. It just went incognito and the major red side actor changed from Russia to China.
 

HamImports

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Why try to be a weasel and turn that one exception on me?
How does you not being consistent with your own standards, make me "a weasel"?
..the non-FCC approved Chinese trash radios sold by the likes of you are utter garbage, absolutely detestable junk.
At the risk of repeating myself... I DO NOT SELL RADIOS, whether guvmint approved or not.
If your first radio experienced was a Baofeng, it's almost fair to compare that to being raped as your first sexual encounter.
Jeez, Elroy. Are you OK? Do you need us to call someone for you?
I'm extremely, dyed-in-the-wool anti-communist and China has a fully communist form of government and they have been building their military. Why would they be doing that, unless they had plans to use it?
That's great, I think communists suck, too. I see what you're saying about the military. I guess if we follow that logic, as the US has amassed the largest military on the planet, has more overseas bases than any other nation, all of which it forces it's citizens to pay for at gunpoint, we should boycott any US made products too, right? I mean, why would they do that, unless they had plans to use it?
The Cold War never ended. It just went incognito and the major red side actor changed from Russia to China.
I feel like I'm in the middle of a Michael Douglas movie.
 

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All of this is irrelevant. The bottom line is these low cost one chip wonder radios are trash. Not because they are made in China. It's because they are poor performing trash. The RDA1846 chipset data sheet describes these as consumer grade chips intended for low cost consumer products like bubble pack FRS/GMRS radios. You know, the "40 mile walkie talkies" you buy at Wal-Mart that barely transmit and receive a half mile away and sound like dog poo. No front end filtering on most (but not all) means the receiver sucks in everything from DC to daylight, except what you want to hear of course.

They are a poor choice for a new ham because often times, they can't do basic functions well like, you know, being able to transmit a solid and clean FM carrier to access a repeater. They can't receive a clean signal because often times, they get easily overloaded by out of band RF that even basic analog scanner radios ignore. They are very difficult and challenging to manipulate from their keypads. Quality control is of course going to be bottom barrel at this price point.

New hams are better served with an Elmer provided 20 year old ham purpose built radio or repurposed commercial rig than any of these road apple radios. Bashing each other is just proof people can't accept facts. Facts are these things are turds. Great for cosplay but that is about it.
New hams should have a subscriber radio that will give them a good experience. Doesn't mean they have to spend hundreds. A good quality used 2 meter HT or mobile can be bought off QRZ forums, hamfests, etc for well under a hundred dollars and will be hundred times better than a Bowelturd for a new ham.
 

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Your requirements as stated:

Must have features:

  • CHIRP supported [That's most radios. Check the list linked below which is probably out of date and incomplete]
  • USB-C charging [why that's a requirement, I don't know, but that's a very common feature today.]
  • TX signal meter [any radio with a digital display these days does that]
  • RX signal meter [same]
  • FM Radio (I believe they all have that nowaways) [Probably. Most do, apparently. ]
  • Higher weatherproofing the better (since I carry it on me while hunting) [Look for IP68 rating]
  • 999 channels if possible
  • Channel groups
  • While hunting I use an earpiece, but at home...those 0.5w speaker is just terrible. I'd need a 1w or 2w speaker
  • RX airbands would be cool (more stuff to listen to) [Yes some do]
  • I hunt for several days in the woods, with limited capacity to recharge the batteries. High capacity battery is a must
Would be nice to have:

  • Would be nice to have dual simultaneous receive (so I don't miss my buddies' conversation while scanning / listening to other)
  • A bit more power might be nice (7-8W). I'd program everything for lower power, but if needed, I'd have it
  • Ability to re-use my FTDI K1 cable to program the radio with CHIRP
  • I like the look of dark screens
  • NOAA alerts monitoring would be great, but I just manually check the NOAA frequencies once in a while
Just do yourself a huge favor and eliminate any of the Chinese brand names from your list. Stick to Icom, Kenwood, Yaesu, Vertex, or Alinco.

I would now say, after having reviewed some options, you should just get yourself an Icom ID-50A and be done with it. It checks just about every box of yours and a whole lot more. 400 bucks from typical outlets. Looks like an all-singing, all-dancing wonder of the world.
Heck, I might buy one myself.

Forget about more power. 5 or 6 watts is the practical limit. You just eat batteries at higher power levels and don't get significantly more range. You want long battery life AND high power? Choose ONE.

 

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Indeed. I'm excited to hear which 30 year old LMR rigs have USB-C charging.
USB-rechargeable batteries are available for quite a few LMR portables. How about a TK-2180 or TK-2312? Programming is CHIRP-like, the 2312 can use the OP's 2-pin programming cable, and build quality is a cut above the Chinese SOC radios.
 

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USB-rechargeable batteries are available for quite a few LMR portables. How about a TK-2180 or TK-2312? Programming is CHIRP-like, the 2312 can use the OP's 2-pin programming cable, and build quality is a cut above the Chinese SOC radios.
As with other solutions suggested, that's great, IF you can find them - it's not really scalable to everyone. I just looked and there are a grand total of 4 of them in the whole of the UK, and I couldn't find a single battery that could be charged via USB. So you're buying a wildcard used radio, with a battery in an unknown state, another £20 for the programming software and you're paying around five times the price of the brand new radios that the OP was considering. You can see why CCRs are so attractive.

"Just drop $400 on an ID-50" is not a solution either. If it was, the OP wouldn't be considering a CCR in the first place.
 

ElroyJetson

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USB-C charging is not typically found on radios intended for public safety usage, and probably not very many radios intended for heavy duty applications, either. It's a decent standard for consumer gear but it's a bit fragile for rough service.

I'd never base my radio choice on whether or not it has a specific style of charging. I just want a rapid charging system that works and is easy to use. What's easier than dropping the radio into a charger pocket?

These days the desktop charger even on public safety radios has been reduced to a minimalistic pocket connected to powever via a wall wart.
I actually prefer a larger, solid desktop unit that DOESN'T use a wall wart. The Saber and HT600 and Jaguar/700P/7100P chargers are more traditional and more to my liking. Yeah they take up more space but I have a dedicated space for radio support anyway. Just a corner of a closet, with power.
 

HamImports

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USB-C charging is not typically found on radios intended for public safety usage
What the... Go back to sleep, Elroy. Nobody mentioned "public safety usage", the OP wants a radio for hunting.
I'd never base my radio choice on whether or not it has a specific style of charging. I just want a rapid charging system that works and is easy to use. What's easier than dropping the radio into a charger pocket?
Jeez, have you had an empathy bypass or something? Are you completely unable to imagine life outside your own frame of reference? How's that's going to work out in the woods? Take along your bulky charging cradle and plug the wall wart into the nearest tree? Or... and hear me out here... use the small power bank and USB cable you already have in your pocket to charge your cellphone?

At this point, the poor OP is thinking "Why tf did I get involved with these ham nutters?".
 
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